.458 SOCOM

[alfsauve]

The barrel and bolt arrived.  Yeahh-h-h-h-h.

And Primary Arms had a 75% off flash sale Sunday morning on comps.   I got one for 5/8-24 and one 1/2-28.  $15ea.








Have decided to go with a 9" handguard.  I tend to light full-length, but this will cover the gas block and help keep the weight reasonable.

My quandary right now is bullet weight.  Hogs.  That's what I intend to shoot.  325gr seems so right for this, but 300gr is so much cheaper.   

[Rastus]

Nothing quite like an angry hog with tushes that would normally be happy just to eat you.

I'd go with the bullet that would do the job.  Cheaper is for buying wine or furniture...or drapes.....

[Majer]

I can honestly say that I didn't know that hog tushes could eat you...

[Solus]

I can honestly say that I didn't know that hog tushes could eat you...

It's does not happen often, but it is a terrible way to go 

[PegLeg45]

Concerning Alf's bullet weight issue, I don't know that 25gr is a great concern once you get into bullet weights above 300gr (ymmv). You can probably overcome the difference with a slight velocity increase (provided accuracy isn't affected).







**Concerning tushes.......
Funny that I had a conversation with a fellow a just few days ago about the word 'tushes' as it related to hogs. Tushes is a word that both my great-grandmother and grandmother used and I heard it many times as long as they lived. I used (and still use) the term as well, even though at times over the years I thought it was just a mispronunciation of something like "tusks" as we southerners can do with words. I looked it up in the dictionary once and discovered tushes is the proper plural form of 'tush' meaning a long pointed tooth, and in particular the canine tooth of a male horse.....and in some Indian elephants a stunted tusk.
The term tush as most use it in reference to the butt is a slang derivative of several other words in other languages like Yiddish and Hebrew for the bottom.

 

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[MikeBjerum]

I believe that at that weight 25 gr one way or another is going to be more an accuracy tweak than power factor or energy transfer.

[Rastus]

I was thinking bullet construction is very important.  I'd go with a sledgehammer of a bullet that will retain it's weight better when, literally, "the bullet hits the bone".  Expansion will also matter.  If both are of equal construction the 25 grain difference probably won't matter.  However, reliable feeding will matter most.  I should have said what I was thinking instead of being in such a hurry.

And yes Majer, they will run you down make a meal out of you.  My dad spent a night in a tree once when he was a young and always impressed upon me the importance of having a place to go if there were hogs in the area.  The hogs we have now are even more aggressive then what people used to run into a century or even 25 years ago. 

Escaped domestic hogs will "de-evolve" after a couple of generations into something more wild than they started out as...which I find fascinating.  It was the escaped domestic hogs that were the problem years ago...but the new ones are Russian boars stock which start out big, strong and pissed off.

[alfsauve]

If you want to buy in cheaply to the 458 craze Primary Arms has barrel and stripped upper for $99.

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[PegLeg45]

I was thinking bullet construction is very important.  I'd go with a sledgehammer of a bullet that will retain it's weight better when, literally, "the bullet hits the bone".  Expansion will also matter.  If both are of equal construction the 25 grain difference probably won't matter.  However, reliable feeding will matter most.  I should have said what I was thinking instead of being in such a hurry.

And yes Majer, they will run you down make a meal out of you.  My dad spent a night in a tree once when he was a young and always impressed upon me the importance of having a place to go if there were hogs in the area.  The hogs we have now are even more aggressive then what people used to run into a century or even 25 years ago. 

Escaped domestic hogs will "de-evolve" after a couple of generations into something more wild than they started out as...which I find fascinating.  It was the escaped domestic hogs that were the problem years ago...but the new ones are Russian boars stock which start out big, strong and pissed off.

Indeed so..... hard-hitting bullets are needed, and bullet design and construction is critical when dealing with hogs. I have a close friend who shot a hog between the eyes with a .357 magnum and the bullet cut the skin but glanced off the hog's forehead, pissing it off more than injuring it.

Alf, you mentioned bullet weights, but not particular brands or designs. What are you looking at there?

My thinking is something in the solid bullet arena like those by Barnes.

[DianneB]

The barrel and bolt arrived.  Yeahh-h-h-h-h.

And Primary Arms had a 75% off flash sale Sunday morning on comps.   I got one for 5/8-24 and one 1/2-28.  $15ea.








Have decided to go with a 9" handguard.  I tend to light full-length, but this will cover the gas block and help keep the weight reasonable.

My quandary right now is bullet weight.  Hogs.  That's what I intend to shoot.  325gr seems so right for this, but 300gr is so much cheaper.

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