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Sticks and stones vs. active shooters
« on: April 11, 2018, 01:35:37 PM »
A Pennsylvania school district decided to arm teachers with 16" wooden toy baseball bats in the event of an active shooter. Schools Superintendent William Hall said that the sticks were largely symbolic — a "last resort" for teachers who want to fight back, not just hide and wait. Their last resort is also their primary defensive weapon.

I'm sure we've all heard about a different school district in Pennsylvania that said it would give buckets of river rocks to teachers, to potentially ward off school shooters. Between the 2 school districts, Pennsylvania teachers now have sticks and stones to fight off active shooters. If I was in one of those schools and some one was shooting the place up, I would feel a lot safer if most of the teachers and staff were packing heat.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986
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Re: Sticks and stones vs. active shooters
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2018, 02:50:46 PM »
Once the stupidity starts it is hard to stop. If it reaches critical mass we're in trouble.   Oops too late.
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Re: Sticks and stones vs. active shooters
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2018, 03:59:40 PM »
and the rocks were a "better" idea...a ranged weapon and more than one of the on hand....

Sigh...Make the old line...Never bring a knife to a gun fight ...seem like it was faking fun of an even better choice ...
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Re: Sticks and stones vs. active shooters
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2018, 06:49:33 AM »
So the Mayor of London called and said, "Hold my beer, willya."

They've managed to top our stupidity and then some with the #KnifeFree garbage.

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Re: Sticks and stones vs. active shooters
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2018, 11:02:22 AM »
One day they will realize that hands are used in the vast majority, of not all, crimes of violence and otherwise.  The obvious solution will be to ban then.  Some countries have already realize that and the penalty for, say, theft is the lose of a hand. 

England is working hard to to reach that level of society.

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Re: Sticks and stones vs. active shooters
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Re: Sticks and stones vs. active shooters
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2018, 02:04:31 PM »
We just need to ban hurting each other.  There prob solved, oh wait we all ready have that.  I guess we need to ban hurting people on purpose then
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Re: Sticks and stones vs. active shooters
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2018, 11:22:10 PM »
Years ago I saw homicide statistics in the U.S. broken down by type of weapon used. #1 was bare hands. #2 was blunt objects. I'm not sure of the exact order for sharp objects, firearms, poison, etc., but guns were definitely not in the top 2.
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Re: Sticks and stones vs. active shooters
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2018, 05:00:03 PM »
Quote from: jumbofrank on April 12, 2018, 11:22:10 PM
Years ago I saw homicide statistics in the U.S. broken down by type of weapon used. #1 was bare hands. #2 was blunt objects. I'm not sure of the exact order for sharp objects, firearms, poison, etc., but guns were definitely not in the top 2.

Indeed so.
And if you go a step farther and look at deaths from all causes recorded in the US (latest I saw was from 2016, IIRC) guns weren't even in the top ten. That's a lot of sweepin' around other back doors before we get to guns as a problem.
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Re: Sticks and stones vs. active shooters
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2018, 06:09:25 PM »
Quote from: PegLeg45 on April 13, 2018, 05:00:03 PM
Indeed so.
And if you go a step farther and look at deaths from all causes recorded in the US (latest I saw was from 2016, IIRC) guns weren't even in the top ten. That's a lot of sweepin' around other back doors before we get to guns as a problem.


Top 10 causes of death, from the CDC, 2016.

1.   Heart disease: 633,842
2.   Cancer: 595,930
3.   Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 155,041
4.   Accidents (unintentional injuries): 146,571
5.   Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 140,323
6.   Alzheimer’s disease: 110,561
7.   Diabetes: 79,535
8.   Influenza and pneumonia: 57,062
9.   Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 49,959
10. Intentional self-harm (suicide): 44,193

I guess they forgot about the real #3 killer, medical errors, which kill 250,000-440,000 people a year.

Final data for 2015. National Vital Statistics Reports, Vol. 66, No. 6, November 27, 2017:
Accidental discharge of firearms: 489

Selected from a list of the top 50 causes of death in the U.S.
17. Road Traffic Accidents: 39,973
18. Falls: 34,670
36. Alcohol: 9,408
37. Diarrhoeal diseases: 9,332
42. Skin Disease: 4,925
48. Peptic Ulcer Disease: 3,172
50. Anaemia: 2,882

http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/usa-cause-of-death-by-age-and-gender

You're 19 times more likely to die from diarrhea than the accidental discharge of a firearm.
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Re: Sticks and stones vs. active shooters
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2018, 07:09:21 PM »
it seems peculiar that no one has advocated for the arming of teachers / school personnel with OC spray or foam
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