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Re: Liberty Ammo
« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2017, 06:52:56 AM »
I'm leery because of the light weight bullets.

Marketing for Liberty is emphasizing Energy which is Mass * Velocity(squared).  Heavy on the velocity.  Liberty and others score high in this department.

But Momentum is just Mass * Velocity.   The the increase in velocity of light weight bullets just doesn't make up for the loss of mass.  They've got a lot of energy but can it carry on through and into the target?

I'm just old school and will stick with a good balance between the two that lead core ammo delivers.   
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Re: Liberty Ammo
« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2017, 11:29:43 AM »
I haven't shot any but the 100 grain 30-06 ammo should handily take a whitetail.  243's do it with less than 100 grains all the time.  So, with fragmenting hollow point I suspect it will do a good job...however I don't like picking metal out of meat.

As far as accuracy...I dunno.  They claim 1 MOA at 500 yards but that will depend on the barrel I'm sure.  I would like to get some of the ammo for 30-06 but it would be stacked on top of other ammo I'd like to try.

I was hoping someone here could cue us on the 30-06 ammo.  The 9MM ammo I've shot runs great...POI shift but more than accurate enough for defensive pistol ammo.

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Re: Liberty Ammo
« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2017, 03:08:19 PM »
That .30-06 ammo is $3.25 a pop at Liberty Ammo's website but only $1.45 a round at the PSA website. That's a lot more reasonable but I don't think a fragmenting bullet is the best type for hunting.
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Re: Liberty Ammo
« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2017, 03:40:05 PM »
That .30-06 ammo is $3.25 a pop at Liberty Ammo's website but only $1.45 a round at the PSA website. That's a lot more reasonable but I don't think a fragmenting bullet is the best type for hunting.

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Re: Liberty Ammo
« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2017, 10:32:14 PM »
When I think of fragmenting rifle bullets I think of exploding varmints. Wouldn't a bullet like that just blow a hole in a deer without penetrating?
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Re: Liberty Ammo
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Re: Liberty Ammo
« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2017, 09:47:28 AM »
When I think of fragmenting rifle bullets I think of exploding varmints. Wouldn't a bullet like that just blow a hole in a deer without penetrating?


I would think that was a possibility, if it hit bone like a shoulder or rib. It might be possible, maybe even probable, to blow apart into fragments that never make it to vital organs and thus fail to incapacitate the animal. The animal might die later of gangrene.
A few years ago our younger son killed a buck that was on its way to dying on its own from a previous superficial wound. He said it was moving slower than normal and acting different than deer act. Upon examination it looked to us like a combination of poor shot placement and poor bullet selection that caused damage to soft tissue but not to any organs. Apparently infection had set in and that led to blood poisoning and gangrene.
When we cut into it to field dress the animal, the meat was basically rotten and unusable. The game warden said the old wound was probably no more than a week or so old.

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