Do not catch ejected rounds

[tombogan03884]

I keep thinking that this may be a one in a million occurrence but I don't want to be the one. I could see this easily happening if a round has a high primer and I know even good brands of factory ammo aren't perfect. I once had a .45 round without an extractor groove. It's hard to believe it missed a step like that and ended up in the box.

That's my thinking.

[MikeBjerum]

That's my thinking.

That is what firearm safety is all about.  We go to ultimate ends to be safe.  We act as if every gun is just waiting to go boom on its own to avoid the possibility of anything happening.  Imagine if we treated other more dangerous activities in our lives like we do firearms.  Maybe drivers should consider this when they, we, get behind the wheel or in the passenger seat.

[tombogan03884]

Can you imagine the havoc wreaked on the auto repair legal, and auto insurance  industries if auto accidents were reduced to under 5,000 per year ?

[PegLeg45]

While I hate it when a competitor flips their round in the air and catches it, there is no danger of this round going off.  However, a round that does not fully eject could be set off with even slow pressure from the slide closing.

This gets back to the original post, ie: the round going off via the action of the ejection process itself (such as the primer hitting the ejector as the slide is drawn rearward).
If a round could go off like this, it doesn't matter whether it is being flipped out of the gun (into the air) or into a hand cupped over the slide, except for the potential damage/injury.

I can see a round going off via the second example above, closing the slide on a live round that didn't eject.


Don't get me wrong, safety should always be the thought of the day...especially with firearms......and, even if I don't see it happening under normal operational mechanics, and if it did it would be a freak occurrence due to abnormal circumstances, I also do not want to be that statistic either.

[MikeBjerum]

Can you imagine the havoc wreaked on the auto repair legal, and auto insurance  industries if auto accidents were reduced to under 5,000 per year ?

Can you hear the screaming and lawsuits by anti-gunners if anyone even suggested that vehicle operation come even close to what we do on our own with firearms?

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[tombogan03884]

Do you ever text and shoot, or shoot while talking on a cell phone ? 

[PegLeg45]

Do you ever text and shoot, or shoot while talking on a cell phone ?

Saw a guy doing just that at the range once. He had the phone on speaker, laying on the bench next to the rifle, and was having quite the conversation between shots.

Then when he got off the phone, he was trying to use the camera on the phone to look through the scope.

[billt]

I'll put this one in the same file that say's it's "dangerous" to shoot 5.56 MM in a .223 chamber. I've yet to see or hear of a catastrophic failure based on that alone. With the millions of AR-15's and Ruger Mini 14's sold in the last decade, we would have seen it EVERYWHERE.

I'm not saying it won't raise chamber pressure a tad, but it's not going to send you to the hospital any more than shooting Weatherby ammunition in a Remington 700 chambered for the same round without the freebore. I don't even bother to segregate my brass anymore when I reload. There is just no need to.

[billt]

Can you imagine the havoc wreaked on the auto repair legal, and auto insurance  industries if auto accidents were reduced to under 5,000 per year ?

Or the traffic court system if only the same amount got a DUI nationwide in a year? Their tax coffers would dry up in a week.

[m25operator]

Where I have seen this get dangerously close, has been when an ejector is too long or the OAL is too long and there is not enough clearance for the bullet nose to clear the chamber mouth, it will jam the case head against the ejector and trap the whole cartridge sideways. One of my pistols did it while fitting a longer ejector. No boom, but it did dent the outside edge of the primer.

Cartridge flipping is a bad habit, and we don't allow it at our range, it blocks the RO from being intent on the firearm during unloading, places the shooter in a bad position if I had to grab his shoulders to control him, and last, the Newbie sees Grand Master Bob do it, and then tries it, gets confused, and forgets to drop the mag first and pops an uncontrolled round  ( hopefully ) in a safe direction.