Ferguson Mo.

[Rastus]

Tom...if in fact the cop did get his face broken what's that got to do with anything? 

The cool-aide is good, the cool-aide is strong. Long live our right to drink cool-aide.  Violence will never affect me or mine, I'm too smart for it to affect me....I know how to overcome violence and to prevent it.  Peace for peace's sake...love everyone...we can all have a butterfly as our friend.  Anger is overcome by peace and love and we can all just get together and be at peace if you would just give it a chance. 

[billt]

Tom...if in fact the cop did get his face broken what's that got to do with anything?

I'm going to go way out on a limb and say, if you smash a cop in the face so hard you destroy his eye socket, along with his vision, (even temporarily), it's reason enough to send the offender to the promised land with as many rounds as you can put into him. There shouldn't be any talk from the media about this guy "facing charges". Yet that is what they're desperately trying to drum up. Just like they did with the whole Trevon Martin debacle. Zimmerman should have never been charged.

If this thing results in yet another unnecessary, stupid, dog and pony show trial, it will be to temporarily appease the blacks. Local or imported. Then it will be more unrest, along with the accompanying smashing, burning, and looting after he's found not guilty. This is nothing but a stupid, foolish, politically correct, racial merry-go-round that is going nowhere. Just like it has for the last half century or more every time one of these "gentle giants" gets rightly blown away by a cop for his violent actions.

[Solus]

If ANYONE is smashed in the face that hard from an unprovoked attack, they have exactly the same rights to dispose of the attacker as the police do. 

They should face the exact same treatment by the legal system as the officer does...no more, no less. 

If the police officer is not cuffed, arrested and relieved of his weapon, neither should the non-police citizen.

Further, if the unprovoked attacker is a police officer, on duty or off, nothing changes.

[ExurbanKevin]

If a 300lb, 6 foot plus guy charges me bellowing threats of physical violence and possibly death, that is a disparity of force right there, and lethal force is (IMO, IANAL) justified for me, a cop, somedood, whoever. He can beat me to a bloody pulp and inflict textbook examples of "grievous bodily harm" onto my person.

Not. Good.

What seems to me is that we have a low-level thug wannabe who was used to beating people up to get his way, and tried that trick one time too many.

[tombogan03884]

If ANYONE is smashed in the face that hard from an unprovoked attack, they have exactly the same rights to dispose of the attacker as the police do. 

They should face the exact same treatment by the legal system as the officer does...no more, no less. 

If the police officer is not cuffed, arrested and relieved of his weapon, neither should the non-police citizen.

Further, if the unprovoked attacker is a police officer, on duty or off, nothing changes.

Reread the thread Solus, the cop is the victim here.

I'm going to go way out on a limb and say, if you smash a cop in the face so hard you destroy his eye socket, along with his vision, (even temporarily), it's reason enough to send the offender to the promised land with as many rounds as you can put into him. There shouldn't be any talk from the media about this guy "facing charges". Yet that is what they're desperately trying to drum up. Just like they did with the whole Trevon Martin debacle. Zimmerman should have never been charged.

If this thing results in yet another unnecessary, stupid, dog and pony show trial, it will be to temporarily appease the blacks. Local or imported. Then it will be more unrest, along with the accompanying smashing, burning, and looting after he's found not guilty. This is nothing but a stupid, foolish, politically correct, racial merry-go-round that is going nowhere. Just like it has for the last half century or more every time one of these "gentle giants" gets rightly blown away by a cop for his violent actions.

Exactly right.

[Sponsor]

[Solus]

Reread the thread Solus, the cop is the victim here.

Exactly right.

I know that Tom.  Just taking the opportunity to point out that cops and other citizens should have the same rights and responsibilities when it comes to use of deadly force and be treated legally the same both before and after the event.

[tombogan03884]

I know that Tom.  Just taking the opportunity to point out that cops and other citizens should have the same rights and responsibilities when it comes to use of deadly force and be treated legally the same both before and after the event.

I still don't see your point, this cop isn't getting treated any different than George Zimmerman who also got crucified for shooting an "innocent black youth" who was beating the snot out of him.

[Solus]

I still don't see your point, this cop isn't getting treated any different than George Zimmerman who also got crucified for shooting an "innocent black youth" who was beating the snot out of him.

That is true.  Think of it as "thread drift".  Not everyone is treated as correctly as Zimmerman was and not all police officer shootings are as justified as this one....but some still walk.

[billt]

If that cop gets charged, every badge in the country should walk off the job. This is total nonsense. Between the Border Patrol and this, law enforcement is hog tied in this country by this Administration. If they won't let them do their jobs, there is no reason for them to be there in the first place.

[TAB]

holder told ferguson change is coming....  yeah it is, right after you stop acting like animals.