Connecticut school shooting

[Magoo541]

I read that there was a CCW carrier at the Clackamas Mall and he had his weapon readied, but could not take a shot due to an innocent bystander behind the shooter. He said it was too big a risk if he missed.
Too bad he didn't have a clear shot.

It is reported that right after the CCW holder attempted to engage the shooter the very next victim was the shooter himself. Like most of these cowards he quit fighting when confronted by someone that wasn't helpless

[Solus]

It is reported that right after the CCW holder attempted to engage the shooter the very next victim was the shooter himself. Like most of these cowards he quit fighting when confronted by someone that wasn't helpless

You hit the nail on the head.  He didn't go there to fight.  He went so he could kill without having to fight.   

We create places that can be accomplished by law.

At the school, several of the teachers, principal and the school psychologist died trying to fight this mad man unarmed by law, and probably by choice too.   If only one had been armed...just one of them.

[MikeBjerum]

The reason and mindset of the anti's:

Most of you should know by now that my message is that it is about violence and not about the tool - any tool.  I have sent messages to several media outlets in our neighborhood offering my services to their staff to educate before they make fools of themselves with incorrect terminology or ideology.  This morning our local radio station fell off the wagon.  They have a short talk show between the morning guy and the general manager.  The gm is gone today, but the morning guy carried on.  He gave his wonderful words of wisdom kinda like Bob Costas.

I need a new radio for Christmas!  Why?

From the speakers above my desk:

If anyone goes Ted Nugent on me and states it is their right to own this crap they will answer to me!  I am not in the best shape, but I have the upper body strength to seriously hurt you while I have you in a headlock!

I AM going to that station in the morning to personally express that they way to answer a violent event like this is not with a violent rant on the radio.  By the way, it is going to be discussed in a business manor in the general managers office.  I am doing it in the morning, because I want morning jack ass to know I have been there.

P.S.
This morning dude is not our favorite radio dude tt!

[billt]

I am getting so damn sick and tired of having something that is my right to own and enjoy, under constant never ending attack by over emotional, opportunistic, stupid people who lack the common sense of an insect.

[billt]

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/12/17/discovery-hit-american-guns-canceled-as-hollywood-wrestles-with-links-to-gun/?intcmp=features

And the stupidity continues.

[MikeBjerum]

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/12/17/discovery-hit-american-guns-canceled-as-hollywood-wrestles-with-links-to-gun/?intcmp=features

And the stupidity continues.

From the article:

Sadly your program makes buying/owning guns seem fun, glamorous, even normal,”

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/12/17/discovery-hit-american-guns-canceled-as-hollywood-wrestles-with-links-to-gun/?intcmp=features#ixzz2FLZvtdgF

Glamorous ... I don't know, but I think the rest is right on!

[jumbofrank]

Yep. Fun and normal. Why can't the antis understand that?

[lhprop1]

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/12/17/discovery-hit-american-guns-canceled-as-hollywood-wrestles-with-links-to-gun/?intcmp=features

And the stupidity continues.

To be fair, the stupid bar was raised when that show first aired. 

[MikeBjerum]

I was just on the phone with a radio person I have worked with in the past.  We had an appointment to talk, and we covered a few items.  One question she asked me was about the NRA shutting everything down and being silent.  My reply:

I have had no communications, but I am aware that the NRA, a few other organizations, and most conservative legislators have gone silent.  My speculation, and it is purely my best guess, is that they are following their pattern of showing respect for the families and other victims.  I expect that after the bulk of services, and maybe after Christmas, they will be back with responsible comments.

I will be speaking to her tomorrow morning, and she indicated that she wants to get me back to the station later this week.

One thing I am fed up with, and based on my grief support and critical stress debriefing education and facilitation it is time to quit showing photos of the dead, quit talking to anybody that will talk, and quit stalking the funerals (two today) as they take place.  Give the families privacy - The number one request the Patriot Guard receives for active duty deaths is to "shield us from the public and media."  There are a group of people that need to be there and to participate, and we do need to know to a certain level.  But, the families, relatives, and friends need to work through this without looking up at the microscope lens.

[jaybet]

O'Reilly had Alan Gottlieb on tonight, who tried to talk through O'Reilly's incessant verbal diarrehea. He made a giant point that the NRA refused to send a spokesperson to his show (can't imagine WHY Bill!).  He also invented a new "assault rifle" tonight...an "AK-15". He referred to it several times 'till Gottlieb corrected him.
Douche. 
I am happy to see some politicians framing the requests for a dialogue to include mental health,etc.

Still, it's going to be a long road.