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Re: Connecticut school shooting
« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2012, 06:36:35 PM »
Has anybody been able to find out how this creep was equipped.  I have heard he had a black tacti-cool vest and two pistols stolen from his mother.  I have also heard news rumors of body armor and something in .223?  Anybody have the facts yet? ???
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Re: Connecticut school shooting
« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2012, 06:38:00 PM »
Just sent to my Congresswoman. (Kelly Ayotte)

Earlier today, before the tragedy in Conn, there was an incident in China where 23 students and 3 adults were STABBED.
This is obviously not a "gun" issue .
If you wish to take effective action to prevent future incidents there are 2 methods.
First, armed teachers. This has been successful in Israel . If a teacher is not competent to posses a fire arm they should not be in a class room to begin with.
I will point out also, that since the inception of the Armed pilot program there has not been a hi jacking in the US.
The second, and more important action would be a law to prohibit media outlets from ever publishing, or naming the deranged losers who commit these crimes.


To comment on KSails first post, this could not have happened with out the assistance of some one already in the building.
According to the Blaze visitors to the school have to be admitted by a staff member.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/a-look-at-the-uniform-and-the-weapons-used-by-the-conn-school-shooter/

On Megyn Kelly’s America Live program on Fox News, a mother of a student called in pointing out that visitors to the school need to be buzzed in through the doors by the front desk.

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Re: Connecticut school shooting
« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2012, 06:40:25 PM »
K - I know what you are saying, but trust me ... wait for it ... I can say it now and not only mean it, but have the proof and background to show it is true ... I am a trained professional in grief and PTS.  I know what I am doing, and I have done this for many years.  Trust me when I say that what the other side does during the next several days will not cost us.  What they do as a knee jerk emotional response will be easily discredited and undone.  In fact, if we act like rational adults we will gain the credibility to be the still voice of reason as we move forward to put the focus on the true issue. 

M58, your whole post is great advice when dealing with grief stricken people. Those people are feeling real pain and need every break they can get.

The part I bolded:  
This just doesn't fit with the gameplan of those who are political animals. What they do in the next few days could very well ream us for the rest of our lives. If BO does a knee jerk, backed by a knee jerk Congress, it wouldn't hit the Supremes for years.  
We have been the voice of reason for decades and decades.
They don't care!!
We could have the credibility of Solomon.
They don't care!

They have their media aided/fueled agenda that makes celebrities out of whack jobs. If "they" gave a damn about anything but their agenda, wouldn't they push to keep the bad guys names out of the press just like the totals for bank robberies are hushed up? Instead we get the opposite.
You can say lots of bad things about pedophiles; but at least they drive slowly past schools.

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« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2012, 06:46:08 PM »
M58's post ignores the history of recent gun bans in Canada, England, and Australia , all of which were pushed through by a tiny minority in "knee jerk reaction" to mass shootings.

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Re: Connecticut school shooting
« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2012, 06:49:55 PM »
Has anybody been able to find out how this creep was equipped.  I have heard he had a black tacti-cool vest and two pistols stolen from his mother.  I have also heard news rumors of body armor and something in .223?  Anybody have the facts yet? ???

The CT SP are not releasing any critical details yet and anything we've heard it speculative at best.  This is in my back yard and all the local channels have live news crews in Newtown.  They're all saying basically the same thing; the cops aren't talking, yet!

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Re: Connecticut school shooting
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Re: Connecticut school shooting
« Reply #25 on: December 14, 2012, 07:02:08 PM »
Has anybody been able to find out how this creep was equipped.  I have heard he had a black tacti-cool vest and two pistols stolen from his mother.  I have also heard news rumors of body armor and something in .223?  Anybody have the facts yet? ???

Tim needs to sign up for "The Blaze".    ;D

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/a-look-at-the-uniform-and-the-weapons-used-by-the-conn-school-shooter/

The Connecticut elementary school gunman who has killed at least 26 people — eight adults and 18 children — Friday was reportedly outfitted in military attire and had at least two guns, which were recovered on the scene. Some have begun to wonder how the man entered the school where visitors have to be let in by staff.

According to Fox News Insider, the now-deceased, 20-something-year-old shooter at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown wore black BDUs (battle dress uniform), which are standard combat uniforms like those sold on Camping Survival, and a military-style vest. The shooter, who was reportedly identified as Ryan Lanza, also had a mask covering his face.
The Connecticut elementary school gunman who has killed at least 26 people — eight adults and 18 children — Friday was reportedly outfitted in military attire and had at least two guns, which were recovered on the scene. Some have begun to wonder how the man entered the school where visitors have to be let in by staff.

On Megyn Kelly’s America Live program on Fox News, a mother of a student called in pointing out that visitors to the school need to be buzzed in through the doors by the front desk. The mother, whose daughter was not hurt, said she doesn’t believe the secretary would let in a person wearing a mask or questionable clothing. The Associated Press reports the gunman had ties, which are not yet specified, to the school.

Two guns were initially reported to have been found on the scene, but some outlets now report four. Reports reference a semi-automatic Glock and Sig Sauer 9 mm being recovered, as well as a .223 caliber rifle.

According to Sig Sauer’s website, the 9mm P226 is used by “U.S. Navy SEALs, Federal agents, and numerous law enforcement agencies including the Texas Rangers, Ohio State Highway Patrol and the Michigan State Police to name a few.”

A .223 rifle has been called by gun experts “the best home-defense weapon” and “a rifleman’s most valuable tool.” Guns Magazine wrote that the .223 “shoots far, fast and flat” and has a “relatively moderate cost.”

Reuters reports an entire classroom is currently unaccounted for, while other children have been removed to a safe location or have gone home with parents.

A law enforcement official speaking under the condition of anonymity said that New Jersey state police are searching a location in that state in connection with the shootings, according to the AP.


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Re: Connecticut school shooting
« Reply #26 on: December 14, 2012, 07:11:42 PM »
Maybe i have this wrong but ABC said They found two handguns on the person and they found the rifle in the car. Does that mean it was not used?

Tom- I am glad you chimed in. Knee Jerk reactions can be very costly. Obama just said in his statement he is going to act. And some press sec. Jay something I believe says he is still strong on his Assault weapons ban right after.
That is why I was a little afraid of completely biting the tongue. And I know everything that i mentioned will not stop all deaths in these instances but try to limit them was my goal. Stopping will never happen. Weather it be with guns here in America or Bombs in the poorer population countries. I still dont think more gun laws need to be instated. The mom bought these guns or at least they were registered to her. So limiting the sale will not help anything but the black market.

What if he would have been escorted by a volunteer ccw citizen. There are Volunteers in Hospitals maybe that is what is needed. There will be no end but to limit damage is the goal. That is why I own my guns. To give myself a fair shot no pun intended.
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Re: Connecticut school shooting
« Reply #27 on: December 14, 2012, 07:15:17 PM »
M- Your post really has me thinking. Yes knee jerk reaction is to blame guns so my reaction is to defend them cause my vision of the problem is so much more far reaching. But I am going to take what you said and apply it. Social problem is right. This starts in and at the family dinner table. And some faith in higher power also needs to be there.

And if by me saying to the people in the break room "hey man or gal, lets not even talk about the guns that caused this and just think about the people whose lives just got ripped apart." Just maybe that will make them think for two seconds about their loved ones. And maybe evaluate something they haven't thought about in while.

I was listening to the radio on my drive home just now. And it is sad. "Whats the point of guns?" "Why is it soooo easy to get guns." "I hate guns." That is what every call said. Not one said "I am calling to tell your listeners to hangup sitting on hold and spend those wasted minutes to call their son or daughter and tell them what they mean to them"

M- I need your phone number cause with my turned upside down life at times it seems you may be able to make think outside the box. LOL

I need to clarify something so I don't make an ass of myself:

Are you asking me to help you stay out of a box, or do you want help being put in a box?

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Re: Connecticut school shooting
« Reply #28 on: December 14, 2012, 07:47:35 PM »
Bloomberg isn't wasting any time.......already blasting anyone and everyone, including BHO for not jumping all over guns.



As a side note:
It's sad that we are no longer really teaching morality to the children in schools ....... how do we expect our citizens then to act morally as adults?..........
This type situation is a result of decades-long secular craziness.

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Re: Connecticut school shooting
« Reply #29 on: December 14, 2012, 07:59:25 PM »
M58 has some great points.  Thanks Mike.
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