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Re: Walk-in gun vault designs / plans?
« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2018, 09:24:40 AM »
I am lucky enough to be building a house right now and have designed it so the entire front porch 8'x20' has a safe room below it. Access to that room is from the basement and is hidden. It has an industrial steel door with multiple locks. Inside that room I have various safes and steel lockers for firearms and other goodies. also a lot of room for emergency supplies, food, medical, etc...

Can you build a porch or similar on your house??

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Re: Walk-in gun vault designs / plans?
« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2018, 09:59:50 AM »
I like the out-of-sight out of mind comment Les.  I have a friend that had the same. 

This thread got me to thinking since I need to hide a few new acquisitions.  We have a walking closet that is too big...there is center space that is unused except for a pile of junk.  If I move in my back wall no one will notice without measuring. 

Ideas on fireproofing?  That would be the booger for me.

So, Pikuptruk, no pictures but maybe you'll stick around and banter a bit with us.  Got any research to share on this?
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Re: Walk-in gun vault designs / plans?
« Reply #32 on: May 20, 2018, 02:09:05 PM »
If anyone is still wondering about Foo Gas. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flame_fougasse

The Quaker may have been on to something.  :)
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Re: Walk-in gun vault designs / plans?
« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2018, 01:08:40 PM »
Quote from: Rastus on May 20, 2018, 09:59:50 AM
I like the out-of-sight out of mind comment Les.  I have a friend that had the same. 

This thread got me to thinking since I need to hide a few new acquisitions.  We have a walking closet that is too big...there is center space that is unused except for a pile of junk.  If I move in my back wall no one will notice without measuring. 

Ideas on fireproofing?  That would be the booger for me.

So, Pikuptruk, no pictures but maybe you'll stick around and banter a bit with us.  Got any research to share on this?

There are several brands of fire proof or resistant insulation available.

http://airkrete.com/fireproof.php

http://www.atlassprayfoam.com/our-services/fireproofing/

http://www.cfoam.com/fireproofcore/


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Re: Walk-in gun vault designs / plans?
« Reply #34 on: May 21, 2018, 03:34:03 PM »
Too bad it would cost too much to insulate the whole house with Aerogel. It's the best insulating material ever made. The lightest kind ever made was 99.98% air. 99% down to 95% air or other gas is normally used. They make it into insulating blankets and other things. I like this picture on the Wikipedia page. Also, most Aerogels can hold 2,000 times their weight.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerogel
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Re: Walk-in gun vault designs / plans?
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Re: Walk-in gun vault designs / plans?
« Reply #35 on: May 25, 2018, 09:28:42 PM »
Fire rated drywall(2 layers even better)  is actually pretty good at keeping out most fires.  And it is cheap. 
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Re: Walk-in gun vault designs / plans?
« Reply #36 on: May 26, 2018, 07:24:39 AM »
Fire rated drywall.  Somewhere along the way I had picked up that when heated gypsum has water that is released from it's matrix which moderates the rate of increase in temperature.  And it doesn't burn well after the water is released.

Aerogel...yep good stuff but at $300 for a 2' x 4' sheet it's very expensive.  Also, it's fragile unless you get the aerogel composite blankets...at the same price...and you still have to be careful not to mash it or you wasted $300.
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Re: Walk-in gun vault designs / plans?
« Reply #37 on: May 26, 2018, 09:03:05 AM »
My safe isn't the most heat resistant one out there.  And being in the basement of my house, I've always wondered how hot it would get in the event of a major fire.

Since the bulk of the water lines run near by, I thought I put a water line directly over the safe.   I could then put a sprinkler head.  Or go cheap and just plastic (not pvc) cap on the end to melt if thing ever got really hot. 

Any thoughts?   
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Re: Walk-in gun vault designs / plans?
« Reply #38 on: May 26, 2018, 12:51:34 PM »
Firearms insurance!
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Re: Walk-in gun vault designs / plans?
« Reply #39 on: May 26, 2018, 12:59:40 PM »
I thought about putting 5 gallon water bottles on top of my safe.  If it get's really hot they will boil over taking heat away...it's a stretch knowing how much they may help.
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