Poll

Why is it policemen, firemen and teachers are laid off en masse' when there is a budget shortfall and not social workers?

To fool people and pass a tax, of course.
6 (19.4%)
To be fiscally responsible.
0 (0%)
Because people want police, fire and education and government needs the tax for their social engineering...duh.
5 (16.1%)
To be fiscally responsible, right?
0 (0%)
To scare people into voting for a tax to fund fatcat pockets and exploit workers to buy votes for liberals by government funding of social and make work programs.
20 (64.5%)
Oops, I forgot.  IT IS GEORGE BUSH'S FAULT! ! !
0 (0%)

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Re: LAYOFF POLICEMEN, FIREMEN AND TEACHERS
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2010, 01:58:04 PM »
It's "Payback" to the voters for refusing the last tax robbery.
I'm with you on that point!  They want the average citizens to feel the pain.
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Re: LAYOFF POLICEMEN, FIREMEN AND TEACHERS
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2010, 02:21:33 PM »
I would think it is more like they want to flog us for not bowing to their "fiscal needs".  Another great fiscal scam is dedicating funds to police, fire and education diverting the then available general funds to their pork and keep the focus on police, fire and education so they can enrich and empower themselves on the back of the working man from the general funds.  Around here, when they need more pork money they call on the roads as well....3/4 of the "dedicated" gas tax does not go where it was voted to go...so they run short on roads and raise sales taxes, etc. to increase the general fund.   Sometimes they hit up the parks.

I have never, not once, had them ask to raise taxes to help with the social programs....doesn't take much brain power to figure that one out.
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Re: LAYOFF POLICEMEN, FIREMEN AND TEACHERS
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2010, 11:21:01 PM »
I'm with you on that point!  They want the average citizens to feel the pain.

Sarcasm alert !

Well DUH, you don't think their going to do something stupid like cutting perks and staff for the OFFICIALS do you ?
Or some really crazy notion like cutting the SALARIES of the officials.

Sarcasm ends.
For now  ;D

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Re: LAYOFF POLICEMEN, FIREMEN AND TEACHERS
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2010, 11:49:17 PM »
It's all about sharing the pain. At least according to our city council. We make more money, have better benefits and cost the city more money.  We are the evil public safety unions. We suck up a larger percentage of the budget than the employees at City Hall that work in the City Manager's office. City Hall takes every opportunity to tell anyone who will listen that the EPSU's are causing the cutting of all the other "important" services the city provides.  Anyway, I'm getting sick...can't go on anymore.

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Re: LAYOFF POLICEMEN, FIREMEN AND TEACHERS
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2010, 09:36:01 AM »

NOTHING BUT PURE -BS- A SCAM, they left out "what about the children?".  I'm starting to miss Bush.

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Re: LAYOFF POLICEMEN, FIREMEN AND TEACHERS
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2010, 09:59:48 AM »
NOTHING BUT PURE -BS- A SCAM, they left out "what about the children?".  I'm starting to miss Bush.

There, I fixed it for you.  Still, I don't miss his profligate spending.
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Re: LAYOFF POLICEMEN, FIREMEN AND TEACHERS
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2010, 10:36:28 AM »
NOTHING BUT PURE -BS- A SCAM, they left out "what about the children?".  I'm starting to miss Bush.

What about the children?  I left that out....do I need to alter the poll a bit?
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Re: LAYOFF POLICEMEN, FIREMEN AND TEACHERS
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2010, 12:57:16 PM »
NOTHING BUT PURE -BS- A SCAM, they left out "what about the children?".  I'm starting to miss Bush.

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Re: LAYOFF POLICEMEN, FIREMEN AND TEACHERS
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2010, 12:59:57 PM »
What about the achor babies whose programs we have to cut?

Seriously, the city I work for closed two fire houses this year on a rotating basis...which means on the 2 x 4 schedule we work one of our busiest houses in closed two days, open two days, closed two days, while the other house is open two, closed two days...you get the picture. We have cut staffing by 12 firefighters and four inspectors. The other day we had a major fire in the first due district of the busiest house...you guessed it, closed. First water on the fire in 6 minutes, 30 seconds. The council praised our "quick response within the standards set by the council"....First water on the fire was done by the third due engine who arrived first since the third due was closed and the second due was on a medical call.

Our cops aren't fairing much better...bomb squad cut, detectives cut, hiring freeze, K-9 facing cuts.

And...we have given back on our contracts...taken no raises, paying higher percentages on our health care...so we are helping out. But what is happening is that our asshats in the council are greenies that are stopping all economic development in the city in favor of bike boulevards and roundabouts instead of private industry jobs which create sales tax revenue.

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Re: LAYOFF POLICEMEN, FIREMEN AND TEACHERS
« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2010, 02:19:43 PM »
What about the achor babies whose programs we have to cut?

Seriously, the city I work for closed two fire houses this year on a rotating basis...which means on the 2 x 4 schedule we work one of our busiest houses in closed two days, open two days, closed two days, while the other house is open two, closed two days...you get the picture. We have cut staffing by 12 firefighters and four inspectors. The other day we had a major fire in the first due district of the busiest house...you guessed it, closed. First water on the fire in 6 minutes, 30 seconds. The council praised our "quick response within the standards set by the council"....First water on the fire was done by the third due engine who arrived first since the third due was closed and the second due was on a medical call.

Our cops aren't fairing much better...bomb squad cut, detectives cut, hiring freeze, K-9 facing cuts.

And...we have given back on our contracts...taken no raises, paying higher percentages on our health care...so we are helping out. But what is happening is that our asshats in the council are greenies that are stopping all economic development in the city in favor of bike boulevards and roundabouts instead of private industry jobs which create sales tax revenue.

Might be different if it had been one of their homes.........but then again, asshats disease is infectious and hard to cure.
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