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Member Section => Handguns => Topic started by: TAB on August 01, 2018, 10:37:22 PM
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Anyone on one of these? The local toy store has one for 650 out the door. I don't know why but I kind of want one
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Had the BD version on order at a LGS. Paid in full. They jobbed me out of one of the two they had on order, sold it to another long time customer even though I had paid in full. Used the balance to buy the missus a Kimber K6.
I've heard nothing but good about the pistol. Still kinda want one even though I'm currently on a 1911 journey. Cajun Gun Works can do amazing things with CZ products.
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FBG dadgum them. Sold it out from underneath you after you put in a deposit. What dogs. I would not buy anything from them ever again unless they were losing money on the deal.
Tab go buy it and let me know how you like it. I get a Jones for one of those every now and then and something comes up that takes my attention or $$$$'s. Gunbroker may have some slightly better prices after shipping but it's better to take one you can handle before you buy. I have owned a half dozen 75B's and they were/are all great.
I was on a quest to buy one sometime in the last year and tripped up on something else. I need to get nudged back into the CZ-97 direction....
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I am kind of the same way, I want one, but the $ is always needed else where( I am super frugal when it comes too personal spending) I am having a hard time buying another 45. More so since it's not a 1911 that I want. That. Ding said I have never bought a .ca product I was not impressed with. Always either very high quality or way better value for the money. Right now my money is all getting dumped into a move( Mrs took a job in a d9ffrent state, so moving closer too the airport so she can fly daily.) The good news is the house sold day 1 on the market and I got a fair price for it
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Ofc. I go there during lunch to fondle it, nope some on bought it. Oh well.
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For all the crap CZ gets in some circles, I have a CZ-40P in .40 which I refer to as my franken gun. Only it was CZ who frankened it, a combo of a P01 and CZ40B. Fits my hand like a Sig, loads of fun to shoot. I went to sell it once, and thought twice about it, thankfully.
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I have fondled the 97B numerous times and love the thing...but there's always something else I wanted a little more. I have a Rami I like a lot, but I've heard the 97B is a nice shooting gun, and I'd love to try that out.
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I’ve had mine for about 5 years now and I can’t say anything bad about it. I prefer it over my 1911’s. It carries cocked and locked or DAO. Trigger was exceptionally crisp in single action the DAO was smooth but a bit long for me at first. Aluma grips fixed the reach issue. With ten plus one rounds of .45acp she’s been my roadie.
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How do you post pics?
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How do you post pics?
Click Reply. Right below the dialog box click Attachments and other options, Attach:, Browse, to browse your picture library or wherever your pictures are. Click on a picture. Click (more attachments) to add more.
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Got it thanks. But I get some kind of server error 500😭
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I used to get a lot of errors of some kind where I couldn't connect to the pages I wanted to go to. When I ran Windows Network Diagnostic it kept telling me it was a DNS problem. I had no idea what that meant but read up on it a bit. The Domain Name Servers that Comcast was using seemed to be the source of the problem. I found out how to force my computer to use another DNS instead of theirs. I chose Google at first just to see if it worked, and it helped, but I don't like Google and looked for something better. That's when I discovered OpenDNS. You can open a free account and set up your computer at no charge. It solved my problem and may fix yours too. Plus they don't sell your information like Google and some other places do.
Before this I had a lot of connection problems and the technical department couldn't fix it by sending a refresh signal to my modem. They had a wait and see attitude where if it still didn't work hours later they would try to figure it out. Now there's nothing to figure out. It works.
https://signup.opendns.com/homefree/
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Thanks for the info. Got to look into it ASAP. I’ve been absent for a while and I miss the discussion and positive vibe here
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Thanks for the info. Got to look into it ASAP. I’ve been absent for a while and I miss the discussion and positive vibe here
Good deal. Glad to see you are coming back! We have gotten a little thin around here...
<snip> The good news is the house sold day 1 on the market and I got a fair price for it
Dadgum Tab....you moving again? And just after you straightened out the lawyer. I thought you had some acreage and liked it there.... Looks like you need to go the Gunbroker route...
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Yeah, 40 acres. The lady took a job that requires here too fly for commute. It's 5 hour drive too Portland, so moving a about 1.5 hours closer. Means my commute will go from 45 mins too w hours.
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I had an extreme health scare that almost ended me. Fortunately for me I’ve bounced right back. I’ve had to slow down a bit and reevaluate my life. FAMILY WORK JUDO AND MY GUNS.
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I was a long time judoka, loved it but had to give it up do too me being exposed to it a underbelly and really giving me a bad taste in my mouth. My last major I took 2nd at San Jose budist at 60 kilo... beat the national champ that year in my 1st match by shimiewaza, 2nd match I locked the guy out. After that no one would newaza me. 25 years of wrestling made me " scary" on the ground to qoute the USA judo coach.
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I had an extreme health scare that almost ended me. Fortunately for me I’ve bounced right back. I’ve had to slow down a bit and reevaluate my life. FAMILY WORK JUDO AND MY GUNS.
Dang. Glad you made it back. I hope you stay healthy.
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I had an extreme health scare that almost ended me. Fortunately for me I’ve bounced right back. I’ve had to slow down a bit and reevaluate my life. FAMILY WORK JUDO AND MY GUNS.
I don't wish health issues on ANYONE, especially fellow gun lovers. Glad you're O.K.
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Thanks guys it’s good to my back. I’ve been a judo player now 22 years and going strong. As senpai I mentor and teach our students. At 106 kg competition can get a bit rough. Time to take it easy and get healthy. Can’t wait to hunt,fish, and maybe complete again. Ippon life
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So Tab...still got that hankering for a 97B???
https://www.gunbroker.com/Semi-Auto-Pistols/search?Keywords=cz&PageSize=96&Sort=13&View=1&mfg=1000078&mo=3000645 (https://www.gunbroker.com/Semi-Auto-Pistols/search?Keywords=cz&PageSize=96&Sort=13&View=1&mfg=1000078&mo=3000645)
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Get it you won’t be disappointed
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Yeah...uh-huh. Get one. You know you want it. Just go do it. Jump up and drive a stake in it. Nail that sucker....go buy it now.
Not that I'm trying to influence you or anything....
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Well? Tab?
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Not had time too go too the toy store, been really busy moving.
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So Tab...still got that hankering for a 97B???
https://www.gunbroker.com/Semi-Auto-Pistols/search?Keywords=cz&PageSize=96&Sort=13&View=1&mfg=1000078&mo=3000645 (https://www.gunbroker.com/Semi-Auto-Pistols/search?Keywords=cz&PageSize=96&Sort=13&View=1&mfg=1000078&mo=3000645)
That there link still works... ;D
You are going to make me buy one of these...I'd like to hold out and pick up a couple of CS 550 FS rifles before they are all gone (discontinued to lesser design) but no....I'm going to have to get one of these pistols instead.
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That there link still works... ;D
You are going to make me buy one of these...I'd like to hold out and pick up a couple of CS 550 FS rifles before they are all gone (discontinued to lesser design) but no....I'm going to have to get one of these pistols instead.
so many guns, so little time/ money.
I still have 2 that I have not had a chance too shoot yet...i need too find days in my hours
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so many guns, so little time/ money.
I still have 2 that I have not had a chance too shoot yet...i need too find days in my hours
I have several I haven't shot yet....a guy can't let that stop himself from getting another. I have a really nice Winchester 9417 I've had for 10 years along with a Winchester 94 that goes back 4-5 years. A nice 1100 in 410, at least one 30-06 Remington, etc..
That's what Gunbroker is for...acquisitions for those without time. When I got that CZ 452 FS it sat in the gun shop for 5 weeks before I could get it...haven't shot that one either...or the Marlin lever action 22...
You are a business man that is married to a doctor....there's got to be a way to make it a company purchase or get the wife to spring for it...when you have a contract put a line in there for providing occasional armed security. Armed security....that would be you and...voila' a depreciable business write off because you are in the security business as well as the construction business.
I had to dig just a little more. I don't have the scratch for one of these for a while and buying one now will put me in a real bind.
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I can't believe I missed this. I've had a CZ-97B for a few years now, and never shot it. It's been lying in the back of the safe until I dug it out the other day, only to find the plastic guide rod had taken a set, and was all warped and bowed to hell.
(https://i.imgur.com/SxMIYZa.jpg?2)
So I ordered this Stainless Steel one from Cajun Gun Works.
https://cajungunworks.com/product/stainless-steel-guide-rod-97bbd-tactical-sport/
It arrived today and took all of 2 minutes to install. It fit perfectly, so tomorrow it's off to the range to light it up. If you get one TAB, be sure to just order a Stainless Steel guide rod right off the bat, and be done with it. I don't understand why they try to get cheap in the wrong places with parts on these guns. Anyway, here is the pistol. It's built like a brick $h!t house. All 43 ounces of it.
(https://i.imgur.com/gMp3rzo.jpg?1)
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Can't believe you missed this thread? If that's it you need to get out more... ;D
That plastic rod deformation is good to know. I need to go and check some of my 75B's for a plastic rod and see whats what. Also that Cajun Gun Works is a new source for me...out of West Monroe, LA. I've relying on CZ and Angus Hobdell's sight.
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Can't believe you missed this thread? If that's it you need to get out more... ;D
That plastic rod deformation is good to know. I need to go and check some of my 75B's for a plastic rod and see whats what. Also that Cajun Gun Works is a new source for me...out of West Monroe, LA. I've relying on CZ and Angus Hobdell's sight.
I deal with the CZ Custom Shop all the time. They are about a 30 minute ride from me. I went with Cajun Gun Works because it was easier to have it shipped right to my door in just a couple of days, instead of driving across town. I'm headed to the range at first light today to see how it runs. I'm not expecting any issues, but you never know.
What upset me about this was how soft and flimsy the rod was. It is also way too short. The Stainless Steel Rod From Cajun comes flush with the end of the slide. With the plastic OEM rod, I can insert the length of a toothpick into the guide rod bushing before it contacts anything. This allows the spring to bunch up and bow, because there is nothing to support it as it compresses. Along with allowing the rod itself to bend and bow because it is made from material that is too flexible.
And it is also far too small of a diameter which exacerbates the problem . Hence the bowing of the rod from just sitting. Plastic guide rods are no different than plastic anything else. They are OK if manufactured correctly, and are of good design to begin with, (Glock). This one wasn't. Obvious proof of that, is you shouldn't have to start replacing parts in a new pistol before you shoot it, in order to have it function correctly.
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Yeah. Uh-huh.
Scored a CZ97B today. How about it Tab? Get one yet?
Bill I ordered a stainless steel guide rod too.
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You'll like it. It's a nice, solid gun.
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Besides Midway USA, where's your grip source? I need to dress up the polished stainless 75B and the new 97B. Heck I may even dress up the SP-01
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Besides Midway USA, where's your grip source? I need to dress up the polished stainless 75B and the new 97B. Heck I may even dress up the SP-01
All of my CZ's wear the factory Cocobolo grips from the CZ Custom Shop. My 97 wears the stock wood grips. They're too dull and flat looking for my liking, but I'm having a hard time locating anything in nice wood for it. Everything now is either in anodized Aluminum, or else that G-10 fiberboard stuff. I'm not that fond of either.
I found these from Nill Grips for the 97. But they're special order, and a bit pricey. They're shown at 6:15 in the video.
https://www.mactecsales.com/CZ02XHO8_p/cz02xho8.htm
They also show these, which are a little less. 106 Euros translates to $118.37 US Dollars. Still expensive, but not as bad.
http://int.nill-shop.com/Replacement-Grips-Pistols/Bruenner-CZ-97-Rhomlas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRrRguSXZtQ
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I was wondering about the aluminum grips. I don't think they will be my choice but I'd like to see some just in case...there is probably a place and a time for them but I don't know what it is. Maybe someone here does?
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I put a few rounds through the CZ97B last weekend. Sweet ;D
It's all metal so it's not as light as the M&P or other polymer guns. But it sure does shoot soft. It was a real pleasure to put 45 ACP downrange. To me this thing shoots like I was hanging onto polymer gun chambered in a 9MM. This thing is going to be my bear carry gun.
I didn't put it on paper from a rest, but I shot at the waters edge on a pond at some targets about 30 yards away and it shot well with tight "groups". Then I started blasting at a 200 yard mid-size IPSC silhouette on a moderately steep hill backstop. I could track the impact based on ground impact. Well heck, if I did my part it hit the dang thing after I applied proper Kentucky Windage. So I am impressed with the inherent accuracy and repeat-ability.
If you need a 45 and don't mind the weight this thing is great. It fits the hand well, has convenient controls, puts the lead where you point it and is impressively priced for an all metal beast. Heck, I'll buy another one of these before I pick up some other polymer gun in 45 or 40.
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Same thing happened to me. I was a polymer fanboy until I bought my first CZ. Now I own 8 different Czech firearms. My 97 easily replaced my SA1911 as my favorite.45
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I am tending to be with you on the 1911 being pushed out. The trigger is better in the 1911 but I can handle the CZ better. Hmmm...I need to make a field comparison between the two.
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I got a beat up Cz 82/83, Nice little carry piece, Then I wound up with a CZ 75. OOOHH ;D
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And TAB will be pleased to hear I've finally moved to the 10 mm side :)
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I got a cz82 about 8 years ago now from J&G sales. I caught the CZ bug because of it. Now I have 8 CZ’s and 2 clones ;D
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Now my edc is a Witness compact. The local range is closed (it's indoors) so I haven't gotten to try my Cz 75.
That's the only gun store I know of closed, but he catered to the Masshole trade so his prices are high, and a major part of his business is the range.
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And TAB will be pleased to hear I've finally moved to the 10 mm side :)
10 mm is the best mm. If i am carrying on my hip, its my delta. The only time i carry 45 is in my shoulder holster. The commander length fits better there.
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My thinking is that 9mm, 45, and 38 may be fine for people that realize "Oh my God, I been shot",
But we get bears, in dumpsters, They don't care, they just want revenge on whatever's close.
For a TRUE " Do it All" pistol you really need 10mm or .357 Mag.
I had to try a couple, but I found a shoulder holster for the Witness compact, the damned rail is a PITA . ;D
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There are only 3 9 mm a man is allowed to carry by choice. 38 super, 9x23 win mag and 9x25 dillon
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I included 38 to include revolvers ;D
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I included 38 to include revolvers ;D
i do carry a colt cobra in my pocket for quick trips or when i can not easliy carry a full sized gun.
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Seems like we all have an "I'm not carrying gun". ;D
Mines an LCP ;D
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Seems like we all have an "I'm not carrying gun". ;D
Mines an LCP ;D
Yep...... Colt Agent in my front right pocket.
Like English Bob said in Unforgiven, "If you don't see it....or, most particularly, if you don't hear it."
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It's a .380.
It's not REALLY a gun ;D
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It's a .380.
It's not REALLY a gun ;D
Until you get shot by it. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I sometimes forget it's there ;D
The LCP is definitely the smallest firearm I want to try shooting .
It isn't as awkward as the NAA revolvers, but it's heading there. ;D
With the clip I usually have it in my front pocket, but in winter I put it in the pocket holster and carry that in my outside coat pocket It's cold, my hands will be there anyway ;D
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Yeah, there is an 'art' to shooting the NAA.
I can hit a bleach jug at 10' and that is more than what the little gun was made for anyway.
I carry one in my front pocket daily unless the Colt is there (have carried it in a shirt pocket). I load three snake-shot rounds and two Aguilla HP rounds.
My biggest use is on snakes, and it will do the job if you hit them in the head with the shot (not difficult if accustomed to shooting it). I figure if I ever have to use it against two legged threats as a LAST resort, snake shot to the face might stun them until I can get the HPs out of the barrel.
In the spring/summer period when snakes are prevalent, I sometimes carry my Super Blackhawk loaded the same way, three snake rounds and three HP rounds. I need to find some snake shot for the Colt .38.
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Yeah, there is an 'art' to shooting the NAA.
A number of years ago a good friend of mine was getting ready to walk into his bank and realized it was being robbed. He was not carrying at the time (He NOW carries 24/7) and went to his car to retrieve his NAA .22 mag. When the bad guy exited he yelled stop. The guy turned toward him pointing a .38 spl and he shot the NAA. He was aiming center mass at about 10 feet. He just grazed the guy on the left side of the neck. It was enough to get the guy running away though. They caught the guy later that day when their car was pulled over for a traffic issue and the guy in the back was holding his neck and bleeding. My friend went out the next day and bought a 1911 and it is ALWAYS on him. He now also trains very regular. He learned his lesson about tiny guns and recoil.
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It's also a matter of length.
See if I can phrase this right. ;D
On tiny guns like the NAA the trigger is positioned so that you almost have to tap it with your fingertip, instead of a normal pull.
It seems like just getting a finger on the trigger creates a really awkward hold.
I'm not comfortable with guns that small.
Unless it's made by Tippman I'm not interested. ;D
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It's also a matter of length.
See if I can phrase this right. ;D
On tiny guns like the NAA the trigger is positioned so that you almost have to tap it with your fingertip, instead of a normal pull.
It seems like just getting a finger on the trigger creates a really awkward hold.
I'm not comfortable with guns that small.
Unless it's made by Tippman I'm not interested. ;D
On my NAA, it's easier to squeeze the trigger with the second joint of the index finger than with the tip. But then that makes cocking the little thing harder. ;D
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Try this one ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THsDpGJcpk8&t=7s ;D
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So Tab, did you ever get that 97? I see there's a bunch back on Gunbroker. They must have shipped some in.
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So Tab, did you ever get that 97? I see there's a bunch back on Gunbroker. They must have shipped some in.
I think I posted these pics before. This is my 97B. It is one of the older models with the wooden grips. The newer models come with Aluminum grips, and are supposed to feed open nosed hollow point ammunition better. I haven't had any feeding issues with mine as of yet. Things I like about the gun:
1.) The Threaded barrel bushing is nice, and helps with accuracy.
2.) The nice thick grip is good for me because it's a double stack magazine like a Glock 21, and I have large hands.
3.) It can use Baby Desert Eagle, (Jericho) .45 magazines from Magnum Research. (I've found they're cheaper and easier to find than CZ mags, and both are made by Mec-Gar).
4.) It's easy to get a good clear sight picture.
5.) It's a nice, solid, all steel pistol.
Things I don't like.
1.) Hard to find. And very few deals on them.
2.) No aftermarket grips available, except from a couple of European hand made custom one's that are ungodly expensive.
3.) The plastic recoil spring guide rod is total crap. Mine was warped so badly from just sitting in my safe, the gun wouldn't cycle reliably by hand. Before I fired it, I replaced it with a longer, solid Stainless Steel one from Cajun Gun Works, that was a perfect drop in fit. (Do the same if you buy one). It will be the best $25 bucks you ever spent.
https://cajungunworks.com/product/stainless-steel-guide-rod-97bbd-tactical-sport/
(https://i.imgur.com/SxMIYZa.jpg?2)
(https://i.imgur.com/gMp3rzo.jpg?1)
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NAA mini... try your weak thumb on the recoil shield to control recoil
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NAA Mini sucks. I can only just curl my finger tight enough to get the trigger. ;D
Great tool for teaching some one the importance of proper fit . ;D
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So Tab, did you ever get that 97? I see there's a bunch back on Gunbroker. They must have shipped some in.
Not yet, been avoiding gun stores lately. They have lines around the buidling.
Between my mother, work and the barn i have been swamped.