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Title: 460SW vs 500SW
Post by: alfsauve on July 15, 2017, 05:10:58 PM
I sold off my .357Max and all the brass.   Now I miss it.  I want something, uh, big.  Yeah, yeah.  Something that really let you know you're holding power in your hand.   I was sorting out some of my videos and I watch the one of me shooting the Max.   It wasn't a big deal.   I  went through 50+ rounds that day in probably less than an hour.  Also that was through a 10" T/C which is pretty light weight.

The .44Mag is nice, but compared to the .357Max it really is somewhat tame.   I know I could load up some super hot stuff with H-100.  Or I could get a 4" 629 if I want that mini-cannon experience.  But..

So I started looking at the 460V.  A nice 5" .460SW that shoots, of course, 45LC and 454Casul.   If I do a sinking fund I can probably have it by Christmas.   It's all one would need for NA game.  And of course for the burgler behind the fridge at the neighbor's house.

BUT.t.t.t.t.t

Then I got thinking, why not go all the way.  Why stop at a .460.  Why not a .500.  I mean if you're going to stand on your hind legs with a hand cannon, it might as well be a .50.  Right?   I've seen the videos of the people about killing themselves shooting these monsters.  (I'm only loading one round for the first time.)   I got to believe there's a technique, that I somehow know but that others haven't a clue.  70/30 support/strong hand grip ratio, maybe? 

There's got to be a lot of them out there, used.  Fired once and put back in the box.

Title: Re: 460SW vs 500SW
Post by: Timothy on July 15, 2017, 05:53:22 PM
Mr Bane likes the boomers!  He may chime in..
Title: Re: 460SW vs 500SW
Post by: les snyder on July 15, 2017, 06:24:19 PM
the SW460 is more versatile for hand load... and IIRC has more velocity... all my big bore shooting was years ago, though a friend had a .500 Linebaugh (by Hamilton Bowen).... heavy linotype bullet at 1400fps would pulverize cement blocks
Title: Re: 460SW vs 500SW
Post by: TAB on July 15, 2017, 08:49:07 PM
the only advantage of the 460 over the 500 is being able to shoot 45c  454c and 460


the 500 has much heavier bullet options and can be loaded a lot hotter. 
Title: Re: 460SW vs 500SW
Post by: alfsauve on July 16, 2017, 03:49:23 PM
the only advantage of the 460 over the 500 is being able to shoot 45c  454c and 460

I'd been mulling that thought for a couple of weeks now.   I decided that since I have the .44mag covered I really wouldn't shoot 45LC anyway.     So really it's 460SW vs 500. 

I'm thinking the 500 is winning.   If i'm going big, I might as well go all the way.   This is more of a "fun" to have or "do I have the moxie?"  "Can I handle this?"  Machismo type of thing anyway.

See lots of the shorties, survival packs, for sale, but I want the ~6" comp.  One guy has a matching set of survival packs, .44, .460 & .500 NIB collector editions and wants $7,500 for the set.   No thanks. 

I'll be haunting the auctions for the next couple of months.  And looking for brass.

Title: Re: 460SW vs 500SW
Post by: billt on July 18, 2017, 09:08:15 AM
Go with the .500. It's the biggest and the baddest. And when you get right down to it, that's why you buy a big bore handgun in the first place. POWER!
Title: Re: 460SW vs 500SW
Post by: tombogan03884 on July 18, 2017, 12:42:42 PM
Go with the .500. It's the biggest and the baddest. And when you get right down to it, that's why you buy a big bore handgun in the first place. POWER!

Nope,   

http://www.magnumresearch.com/Firearms/Magnum-Research-4570-Revolver-75-inch-Barrel.asp

They come in a smaller .444 Marlin as well.
Title: Re: 460SW vs 500SW
Post by: billt on July 18, 2017, 12:53:56 PM
Nope,   

http://www.magnumresearch.com/Firearms/Magnum-Research-4570-Revolver-75-inch-Barrel.asp

They come in a smaller .444 Marlin as well.

I've got both of them. One in .45-70 and the other in .500 S&W Magnum. Of the 2 with factory loads, the .500 is substantially more punishing to shoot. It has far higher pressure over the .45-70. The .45-70 loads shown with the revolver are handloads. A Lyman 552 Gr. Gas Check bullet over a healthy charge of IMR 3031. They are a handful. But loaded with factory .45-70, 405 Gr. soft points, it's quite mild to shoot.

(http://i.imgur.com/Mag5GdM.jpg?1)
Title: Re: 460SW vs 500SW
Post by: tombogan03884 on July 18, 2017, 03:09:15 PM
They aren't historically or mechanically interesting, and they're no good for EDC so I'm not interested.
I would trade for something in those 3 categories.
Title: Re: 460SW vs 500SW
Post by: billt on July 18, 2017, 03:56:42 PM
They aren't historically or mechanically interesting, and they're no good for EDC so I'm not interested.
I would trade for something in those 3 categories.

What's EDC?
Title: Re: 460SW vs 500SW
Post by: Timothy on July 18, 2017, 04:13:55 PM
Every Day Carry..
Title: Re: 460SW vs 500SW
Post by: MikeBjerum on July 18, 2017, 07:44:59 PM
How is your will power?  Do I need to give a sales pitch, or is this enough?

(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e330/m58/20170718_1937181_zpsuuoe0as0.jpg) (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/m58/media/20170718_1937181_zpsuuoe0as0.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 460SW vs 500SW
Post by: crusader rabbit on July 19, 2017, 08:02:57 AM
What's EDC?

Just thought I'd jump in, here...

Billt, EDC is Every Day Carry or what you always have with you ready to shoot because, you know, democrats.

Crusader Rabbit
Title: Re: 460SW vs 500SW
Post by: billt on July 19, 2017, 08:28:45 AM
Billt, EDC is Every Day Carry or what you always have with you ready to shoot because, you know, democrats.

Crusader Rabbit

I see, said the blind man.
Title: Re: 460SW vs 500SW
Post by: Big Frank on July 20, 2017, 12:17:32 AM
Nope,   

http://www.magnumresearch.com/Firearms/Magnum-Research-4570-Revolver-75-inch-Barrel.asp

They come in a smaller .444 Marlin as well.

If you're going to get a long cylinder BFR why not get a .450 Marlin? http://www.magnumresearch.com/Firearms/Magnum-Research-450-Marlin-Revolver-10-inch-Barrel.asp
Title: Re: 460SW vs 500SW
Post by: alfsauve on August 12, 2017, 06:36:20 PM
I don't know.    Just not a fan of those long barrels anymore.

While I'm waiting for just the right .500 to come available, I did manage to pick up a 5" .44 Mag last night.  $695.

(http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/678005000/678005578/pix782898113.jpg)


I sold my 6" one a while back and have been hankering for a more manageable 5".  If I could find speed loaders for it, I'd take it and some .44spl to the next ICORE match.

Title: Re: 460SW vs 500SW
Post by: billt on August 12, 2017, 06:54:47 PM
Very nice!
Title: Re: 460SW vs 500SW
Post by: Big Frank on August 12, 2017, 10:43:06 PM
Nice wheel-gun Alf. The 5" barrel looks like a great compromise and .44 Magnum is plenty for any critters that are likely to cross my path.

I also like the look of Ruger Redhawks but don't know if I'd get the 5.5" or 4.2" barrel. There's only a 2 ounce difference in weight between the two.