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Title: Gabe Suarez Newsletter -- The Knife in Counter Terrorism
Post by: Rastus on August 02, 2016, 06:11:42 AM
I know some of you guys get Gabe's newsletter.  He speaks about stabbing as opposed to slashing and the effectiveness of ruthless intent.  I know he's right but it really sucks that our nation's politicians have put us at the point where we need to consider these things in our daily lives.

Regardless, Gabe brought up a couple more good points that rung true with me.  One is that you can often bring a knife places where a gun can't go and that a fixed blade is better than a folder.  I keep a folder with me because I don't have a good pair of cowboy books to wear to keep a double edged dagger concealed.

Do any of you guys conceal fixed blades and how do you carry them?
Title: Re: Gabe Suarez Newsletter -- The Knife in Counter Terrorism
Post by: PegLeg45 on August 02, 2016, 12:01:40 PM
In addition to the 3" folding Gerber (20+ years old, from back when Gerber blades were good) that clips in my right front pocket, I have a 2 1/2" fixed blade Cold Steel Tanto that I wear suspended from my neck via GI dog-tag chain.

I seldom tuck a shirt in (CCW in play) except on Sunday mornings, so I can retrieve the knife pretty quickly from under a t-shirt. If wearing a button-up shirt, I can easily retrieve it from between the top shirt and under shirt.

I am considering one of those "ink pen shaped" stabbing tools to carry in a shirt pocket as well.
Title: Re: Gabe Suarez Newsletter -- The Knife in Counter Terrorism
Post by: alfsauve on August 03, 2016, 06:37:30 AM
When I wear my boots out I have a fixed blade.   Am considering what PegLeg is doing with a necklace carry.

Title: Re: Gabe Suarez Newsletter -- The Knife in Counter Terrorism
Post by: Big Frank on August 03, 2016, 02:22:13 PM
I bought 2 Cold Steel Para Edge neck knives with tanto blades. The blade is 3" total with 2-1/2" being sharpened. One is still NIB and I wore the other one very little. The sheath doesn't hold the knife very tight and it can fall out. It's sharp and the handle is long enough to be useful. Now they make a similar knife with a 2" blade called the Super Edge. It's not very intimidating but it is legal here. The state won't let me carry a more effective defensive knife than one with a 3" blade. The Pendleton Mini Hunter would fit that category nicely. The handle is longer than the blade and should afford a good grip.

https://www.coldsteel.com/products/fixed-blades/super-edge.html

https://www.coldsteel.com/products/fixed-blades/pendleton-mini-hunter.html
Title: Re: Gabe Suarez Newsletter -- The Knife in Counter Terrorism
Post by: Solus on August 03, 2016, 03:53:38 PM
Bill Bagwell used to write for Solider of Fortune Magazine about knife fighting.  He favored large knives. 

Here is a video of Bagwell demonstrating a bit of fighting. 

Interestingly, he is carrying a knife with 12" blade concealed.



Title: Re: Gabe Suarez Newsletter -- The Knife in Counter Terrorism
Post by: PegLeg45 on August 04, 2016, 12:37:04 PM
I'd like to see him try to sit down with that thing down his pants. I have a fixed blade knife with a 4" blade and a belt sheath that I seldom carry because it becomes cumbersome when sitting....and it's on the outside of my pants.
Title: Re: Gabe Suarez Newsletter -- The Knife in Counter Terrorism
Post by: TAB on August 05, 2016, 10:30:42 PM
the only place I really go that I can't take my gun I also can't take my knife.
Title: Re: Gabe Suarez Newsletter -- The Knife in Counter Terrorism
Post by: PegLeg45 on August 06, 2016, 10:39:14 AM
the only place I really go that I can't take my gun I also can't take my knife.

Same here....... courthouse and county admin building.....they installed metal detectors after a new law went into effect two years ago (allowing carry in any municipal building without detectors) and they have a deputy manning it. If court is in session, not even a leatherman tool is allowed. If court is not in session, he'll let you slide on a knife if you are just going in to buy car tags.
Title: Re: Gabe Suarez Newsletter -- The Knife in Counter Terrorism
Post by: Rastus on August 13, 2016, 10:17:02 AM
Jumbo I like this one from Cold Steel.  Methinks my middle son has made off with it though:
https://www.coldsteel.com/safe-maker-ii.html (https://www.coldsteel.com/safe-maker-ii.html)
I also like the Counter Tac:
https://www.coldsteel.com/counter-tac-i.html (https://www.coldsteel.com/counter-tac-i.html)
I believe middle son has that one too.

I have a really good double edged blade like the Counter Tac in wood handle without the blood groove I got in Branson at Silver Dollar City.  I use it for a boot knive..

Title: Re: Gabe Suarez Newsletter -- The Knife in Counter Terrorism
Post by: Big Frank on August 13, 2016, 06:47:33 PM
Those are good looking knives Rastus but double edge fixed blade knives are a no-no in Michigan. I have no idea why but they're illegal to carry. A double edge folding knife would be okay as long as it's not over a 3" blade.
Title: Re: Gabe Suarez Newsletter -- The Knife in Counter Terrorism
Post by: Rastus on August 13, 2016, 09:54:25 PM
Gee that sucks.  Automatic knives are a no-no here too...but the worst that happens is that the cop takes them home with him and you have to buy another.

Same way for double edges in Michigan????
Title: Re: Gabe Suarez Newsletter -- The Knife in Counter Terrorism
Post by: Big Frank on August 13, 2016, 10:25:25 PM
Gee that sucks.  Automatic knives are a no-no here too...but the worst that happens is that the cop takes them home with him and you have to buy another.

Same way for double edges in Michigan????

I believe a double edge knife is considered a concealed weapon and you can't get a permit for one. I wouldn't want to get caught with one anyway. As far as longer than 3" blades are concerned they made me destroy my 4" knife on the spot when I was caught carrying one. I've had another knife get confiscated that I don't think ever got turned in when I was a kid. Switchblades are only legal if you only have one hand. I don't know what would happen if I was caught with one. I think they'd just keep it for themselves. You can get a permit to carry a concealed pistol but not a decent size knife.
Title: Re: Gabe Suarez Newsletter -- The Knife in Counter Terrorism
Post by: Rastus on August 14, 2016, 07:30:52 AM
How about swords?  Can you have those?  Kitchen knives (ok, being a smart ass here)?
Title: Re: Gabe Suarez Newsletter -- The Knife in Counter Terrorism
Post by: les snyder on April 27, 2017, 07:32:45 PM
just looked at this forum...for a neck knife with a "friendly" profile, you might look at the ESEE Izula....

(http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz180/LesSnyder/002_zps428f71b1.jpg) (http://s825.photobucket.com/user/LesSnyder/media/002_zps428f71b1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Gabe Suarez Newsletter -- The Knife in Counter Terrorism
Post by: Rastus on October 25, 2017, 06:02:01 AM
I finally got back to this thread and no picture.  Les, what knife was in the picture?

Title: Re: Gabe Suarez Newsletter -- The Knife in Counter Terrorism
Post by: PegLeg45 on October 25, 2017, 03:38:12 PM
I finally got back to this thread and no picture.  Les, what knife was in the picture?

https://eseeknives.com/knives/esee-knives/izula/

Title: Re: Gabe Suarez Newsletter -- The Knife in Counter Terrorism
Post by: Overload on October 26, 2017, 01:07:11 AM
I have an Izula. Not a poor choice for a neck knife. Don’t use with a finger in the hole, this isn’t a skinning knife.
If you want to carry a longer knife ‘upstairs’, know that you can get a shoulder holster/sheath system. The Mercharness allows most sheaths designed for neck use to be mounted in your armpit.  I’ve used one to carry a heavy Krein fixed blade, but found it more comfortable with something on the opposite side as a counterweight.
Title: Re: Gabe Suarez Newsletter -- The Knife in Counter Terrorism
Post by: Rastus on October 26, 2017, 06:40:05 AM
Thanks Peg!  Now I see.  8)

Overload...buddy...good to see you back on the forum.  I was totally unaware of this carry system.  That's really cool.  You've just opened up a whole new training routine when I saw that. 

I wonder what Michael Janich can add to this for training? 


Title: Re: Gabe Suarez Newsletter -- The Knife in Counter Terrorism
Post by: Overload on October 28, 2017, 12:20:04 AM

I wonder what Michael Janich can add to this for training?

I assume a Spyderco FP09GP2 Ronin 2.
There’s a folder too, the C85GP Yojimbo 2.
Title: Re: Gabe Suarez Newsletter -- The Knife in Counter Terrorism
Post by: Rastus on October 28, 2017, 09:51:08 AM
I was not clear as I read back...I was more interested in what kind of training for the Mercharness system you mentioned.  I had never seen nor considered such a system with an inverted knife.  But I like it...I think!

Also, where do you guys go to get the best price online for buying knives?