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Member Section => Handguns => Topic started by: wisconsin on August 19, 2008, 08:01:20 PM
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I was looking into to getting a bright flashlight to hold (weak hand) with my 1911 (strong hand). I took a look at some at Sportsmans Warehouse today. To be exact the Surefire brands. Wow the prices were a real eye opener. Some were as small around as a cigar other a lot bigger. Does anyone have a hand held light that they are using that works for them and doesn't break the bank. The only requirement I guess would be bright to very bright and on/off switch would have to be a rear activated button. Or is one of those items that qualify as you get what you pay for.
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I was looking into to getting a bright flashlight to hold (weak hand) with my 1911 (strong hand). I took a look at some at Sportsmans Warehouse today. To be exact the Surefire brands. Wow the prices were a real eye opener. Some were as small around as a cigar other a lot bigger. Does anyone have a hand held light that they are using that works for them and doesn't break the bank. The only requirement I guess would be bright to very bright and on/off switch would have to be a rear activated button. Or is one of those items that qualify as you get what you pay for.
If you think the price for the flashlight is high, do the math on the cost of batteries! :o
I use a mini mag light with the upgraded bulb..... they are pretty darn bright with the upgraded bulb, and at the distance you would be using it for in your home, they will blind the bad guy....... the best part is that they run a very long time on AA batteries..... make sure you buy the push button replacement switch for the rear of the light......... total price: about $20
If you really want the pricey flash light that runs on the fancy batteries, try Cabela's XPG or Alaskan guide series.
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I'm sure there are some other good brands, and I'm sure others will chime in here. I've got the Surefire Aviator as my primary (along with some dedicated weaponlights on my 870 and one of my ARs) and love it. Dim red light for reading or checking something w/o ruining night vision, and a BRIGHT white light for turning night to day. Built like mack trucks.
Yeah, you pretty much get what you pay for with good lights. Also, whatever you end up with, get spare batteries AND a spare bulb, especially if this is going to be part of your everyday carry.
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If you think the price for the flashlight is high, do the math on the cost of batteries! :o
I use a mini mag light with the upgraded bulb..... they are pretty darn bright with the upgraded bulb, and at the distance you would be using it for in your home, they will blind the bad guy....... the best part is that they run a very long time on AA batteries..... make sure you buy the push button replacement switch for the rear of the light......... total price: about $20
If you really want the pricey flash light that runs on the fancy batteries, try Cabela's XPG or Alaskan guide series.
I've been able to locate the bulb upgrade at Wally Mart but can't find the push button upgrade. Do you recall were you saw or purchased it?
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I have found a Streamlight "Microstream" LED that runs on 1 AAA battery, about the same size as a Bic lighter, and very bright.
It has the pocket clip and/or the Picatinny rail adapter. $21.00 off the local gun shop's rack. It would blind a BG. I use at work crawling under boat decks and behind deck hatches etc,... looking for the "gremlins"
There are several that are very good as well. Even seen the one's that have 2+ different lighting options.
Although I still keep a couple good 'ol "full-size" Maglights close by the doors.
Had to fend off a raccoon once attacking my old cat "Buddy", no time to grab a firearm, used the Rodney King Method with the big Maglight, 3rd blow did the trick, saved my da** cat.
" Built like mack trucks.",.. +1 someguy.
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1st, I'm a flashlight freak, I own damn near all them, I could go for a week with all the lights that I have without recharging.
1st question, rechargeable or lithium Ion. Rechargeable is cool.
2nd, how big, since you want to operate it with one hand, small.
3rd, LED or Xenon, nowadays, LED have come so far, it is the way to fly..
4th, going back to the 3rd question, how bright, does it matter if you have dim down capability? Or strobe??
Best new lights on the market, in a small bright package, Streamlight scorpion, in LED, but it takes cr123 batteries, 4 bucks at walmart and it takes 2, good for an hour and a half, but good for 10 years left on a shelf. 40 bucks.
Streamlight Strion, rechargeable,, LED, compact and good for and hour and a half, more expensive though, internet, 90 - 100 bucks.
Insight technologies typhoon 1 & 2, 135 - 250 bucks with the dim down feature and strobe + up to 150 lumens., ultra bright, uses cr123 batteries. Has a built in finger rest for pistol shooting, holding the light in the weak hand.
Surefire, lumimax L1, 10 to 65 lumens and very efficient, very small and well built, 135 bucks, takes the cr123 battery, I carry one every day.
Surefire g2 Led, 65 lumens of white light, takes cr123 batteries, and is a great light for about 65 bucks.
Surefire, aluminum combat light, with lanyard and finger control for weakhand hold, 135 bucks and takes cr123 batteries.
I'm sticking to your criteria for offhand manipulation.
Best bang for the buck are the 1st 2 streamlights and the surefire g2 Leds.
My main carry light is a Streamlight stinger XT rechargeable, but it is a larger light, not too big, but too big to carry in most pockets. Since I use it everyday, the rechargeable makes sense for me.
Many, many choices my man, I own all of the above and they work for me.
Very glad you did not ask about weapon lighting systems.
By the way, if you have a mini mag light, the conversion is worth the cost, it elevates this little light, and is quite useful.
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I just use a 2 C-cell Mag-Light. It's bigger and heavier than my Streamlight Scorpion flashlight but it can be also used as a club. It's a trade off but mostly I just don't like buying those little3v litium batterries. I'm waiting for a bulb to burn out before I get the LED upgrade.
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I have to identify with M25 as a flashlight junkie/gearhead. ;D I have a few Surefires (G2, G2LED, and an old 6P), an ASP light, and a box full of other versions of varying quality, price, and function. The basic G2 is part of my AR, the G2LED is a home light, and the 6p is used on the ambulance.
The more control you have the better. The tailcap switch is almost mandatory, prefering the momentary switches WITHOUT a click(to much noise and can't "strobe"). Used to train with a D-cell Mag but it was a pain and the switch on the side limited the usefullness. It made certain techniques impossible and good sight/light alignment difficult.
I would love to get one of the Blackhawk Gladius with the strobe and dimmer but don't have the money. Some of the "major" manufactures (Blackhawk, Surefire, and Streamlight ect) have great lights and you usually get what you pay for. I do have a couple of relatively cheap Gerber lights that do really well but the LEDs beam is bright in close but diffuses after a few feet.
The batteries are pretty easy to find. The CR123s that most use are pricey if you get the two pack from WallyWorld and such ,about $10, but Surefire sells a bulk pack of 15 for about $20
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Have a 3 D cell MagLight by the bed. Figure I can turn it on, throw it at the bad guy, while he is blinded and ducking, I can shoot him. Repeatedly.
Grizzle Bear
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I've got a 3 d cell right next to my detla elite, not that I would use it in SD. I'm not going to clear the house... take every thing you want from the front rooms... hell take a chain saw to the frame, a jack hammer to the slab and drag it away with a truck. Come down the hall way, your dead.
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I've been able to locate the bulb upgrade at Wally Mart but can't find the push button upgrade. Do you recall were you saw or purchased it?
Many sporting goods places have them, but eBay is also a good source (about $8)
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&dfsp=32&catref=C6&from=R40&satitle=mini+maglite+switch&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2&sadis=200&fpos=ZIP%2FPostal&sabfmts=1&saobfmts=insif&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=32%26fsoo%3D2&fgtp=
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I've got a 3 d cell right next to my detla elite, not that I would use it in SD. I'm not going to clear the house... take every thing you want from the front rooms... hell take a chain saw to the frame, a jack hammer to the slab and drag it away with a truck. Come down the hall way, your dead.
Thats basically my motto also.
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1st, I'm a flashlight freak, I own damn near all them, I could go for a week with all the lights that I have without recharging.
1st question, rechargeable or lithium Ion. Rechargeable is cool.
2nd, how big, since you want to operate it with one hand, small.
3rd, LED or Xenon, nowadays, LED have come so far, it is the way to fly..
4th, going back to the 3rd question, how bright, does it matter if you have dim down capability? Or strobe??
Best new lights on the market, in a small bright package, Streamlight scorpion, in LED, but it takes cr123 batteries, 4 bucks at walmart and it takes 2, good for an hour and a half, but good for 10 years left on a shelf. 40 bucks.
Streamlight Strion, rechargeable,, LED, compact and good for and hour and a half, more expensive though, internet, 90 - 100 bucks.
Insight technologies typhoon 1 & 2, 135 - 250 bucks with the dim down feature and strobe + up to 150 lumens., ultra bright, uses cr123 batteries. Has a built in finger rest for pistol shooting, holding the light in the weak hand.
Surefire, lumimax L1, 10 to 65 lumens and very efficient, very small and well built, 135 bucks, takes the cr123 battery, I carry one every day.
Surefire g2 Led, 65 lumens of white light, takes cr123 batteries, and is a great light for about 65 bucks.
Surefire, aluminum combat light, with lanyard and finger control for weakhand hold, 135 bucks and takes cr123 batteries.
I'm sticking to your criteria for offhand manipulation.
Best bang for the buck are the 1st 2 streamlights and the surefire g2 Leds.
My main carry light is a Streamlight stinger XT rechargeable, but it is a larger light, not too big, but too big to carry in most pockets. Since I use it everyday, the rechargeable makes sense for me.
Many, many choices my man, I own all of the above and they work for me.
Very glad you did not ask about weapon lighting systems.
By the way, if you have a mini mag light, the conversion is worth the cost, it elevates this little light, and is quite useful.
Do you mind if I just get on a bus and come for a visit and try out all of your flashlights :o. I'm going to have read and re-read your post to take in all the info you offered. Your the man ;)
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I'm using a 9P, 9Z and a G2 - all with high output bulbs.
200 lumens on the 3 cell...which is just shy of what you need to x-ray the dog. 120 lumens on the 2 cell G2.
I'd change to another flashlight if one of the Surefires would break....but they just won't.
Not even the high output bulbs have given me a problem and they're only rated for 20 minute burn time. I easily have 5 hours on the one in the G2.
Buy the batteries from Surefire - 1.75 each. 12 pack or 72 pack.
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Now you did it. I went to Surefire's site and yeah, they have a LED upgrade for my light. 2x 123 cells every hour (bulb) or 2x 123 cells every 12 hours (LED). The upgrade pays for itself in batteries saved pretty quickly for me.
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I'm using a 9P, 9Z and a G2 - all with high output bulbs.
200 lumens on the 3 cell...which is just shy of what you need to x-ray the dog. 120 lumens on the 2 cell G2.
I'd change to another flashlight if one of the Surefires would break....but they just won't.
Not even the high output bulbs have given me a problem and they're only rated for 20 minute burn time. I easily have 5 hours on the one in the G2.
Buy the batteries from Surefire - 1.75 each. 12 pack or 72 pack.
Thats the funniest damn thing I have heard today! I literally just laughed out loud.
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1st, I'm a flashlight freak, I own damn near all them, I could go for a week with all the lights that I have without recharging.
1st question, rechargeable or lithium Ion. Rechargeable is cool.
2nd, how big, since you want to operate it with one hand, small.
3rd, LED or Xenon, nowadays, LED have come so far, it is the way to fly..
4th, going back to the 3rd question, how bright, does it matter if you have dim down capability? Or strobe??
Best new lights on the market, in a small bright package, Streamlight scorpion, in LED, but it takes cr123 batteries, 4 bucks at walmart and it takes 2, good for an hour and a half, but good for 10 years left on a shelf. 40 bucks.
Streamlight Strion, rechargeable,, LED, compact and good for and hour and a half, more expensive though, internet, 90 - 100 bucks.
Insight technologies typhoon 1 & 2, 135 - 250 bucks with the dim down feature and strobe + up to 150 lumens., ultra bright, uses cr123 batteries. Has a built in finger rest for pistol shooting, holding the light in the weak hand.
Surefire, lumimax L1, 10 to 65 lumens and very efficient, very small and well built, 135 bucks, takes the cr123 battery, I carry one every day.
Surefire g2 Led, 65 lumens of white light, takes cr123 batteries, and is a great light for about 65 bucks.
Surefire, aluminum combat light, with lanyard and finger control for weakhand hold, 135 bucks and takes cr123 batteries.
I'm sticking to your criteria for offhand manipulation.
Best bang for the buck are the 1st 2 streamlights and the surefire g2 Leds.
My main carry light is a Streamlight stinger XT rechargeable, but it is a larger light, not too big, but too big to carry in most pockets. Since I use it everyday, the rechargeable makes sense for me.
Many, many choices my man, I own all of the above and they work for me.
Very glad you did not ask about weapon lighting systems.
By the way, if you have a mini mag light, the conversion is worth the cost, it elevates this little light, and is quite useful.
The man has got as many cool ass flashlights as he does guns!
I'm gonna have to move to Texas, and you and me are gonna become real good friends...... Do you happen to have a boat by any chance? ;D
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No, boats are great big holes you pour many into to keep them afloat, but come on down anyway, I do love to fish.
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Thats why I don't own one.... but I am forever looking for a friend who does
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I will have to add a +1 for the mini mag. I have the same one I used over seas. it has been great and not very expensive. But also it is like someone else said when you buy the Surefire you get what you pay for.
I am a proponent for a weapon light. I know you said you wanted one for weak hand carry. But a Surefire x-300 on the bottom of your handgun is the, I feel, best way to go. It is also my belief that all your home defense guns should have a weapon light on them. But at the bare min your HD handgun. Having that spare hand in an indoor combat situation is vital. There are doors swinging, stuff you must constently push away or move, and Reloads.
Having a flashlight readily availible is always a must, but if your intent is to have light for the instance of fighting a weapon light must be in your equation.
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Wisconsin,
Do not confuse a flashlight with a fighting light. They are two entirely different beasts. Mini-mag lights are for when the lights go out. Surefires lights are for fighting. If you ever attend a low-light fighting course, the differences will become apparent very quickly.
I'm a big Surefire fan and they used to be the only game in town, but now there are several other manufacturers who are making good fighting lights. Blackhawk, Streamlight, Insights, etc.
There are a lot of features, but the two you need to have are dominating power and an end-cap activation. To test for dominating power, stand across a room in broad daylight and have someone aim the light in your face and eyes. The light should be brilliant enough to force your eyes to shut and possibly make your head turn away. If not, find a stronger light.
I am also a proponent of using two lights to fight in low-light. One on my weapon and one in my weak hand. I use the one in my hand to search for and fix my threat. I use on the one on my weapon to fight the threat.
Why not just use the one on my weapon? There are things I may not necessarily want to point my weapon at, but I still need to light up and there are places I may need to put the light to see, but I don't want to project the weapon away from my body where I have a minimum amount of control over it.
Pony up the money and get the Surefire.
USSA-1
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USSA Those are great points. I never really thought about having one in my hand and one on the weapon, it makes perfect sense. I have never had a real flashlight. I used my Mini Mag in my tent in Iraq, and my weapon light in the fight. But this all goes back to the difference between combat and civilian world. I wanted my weapon to point were ever the light was when I was over there.
I really hope I get the chance to come to the school soon. Just the knowledge you share in here is incredible so I could only imagine a week. Thanks for the insight.
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USSA-1. You make some great points. I will agree that there is difference in the two. Flashlight to carry the trash out with. Tactical light to use in a fighting situation. However you and I are running in two different worlds. I'm neither LEO, Military, or Blackwater if you will. I'm going to assume that your experience in this field, no I know from reading your past posts that you are light years ahead of me in training. And I respect you for that and your opinion. I weight my $$$ options when purchasing the best that I can afford. For me to spend $150-300 on a tactical light is hard for me to justify. I know, everyone will post a response to that and say how much is your life worth.Of course its worth everything. I use the mini mag and mag lights at my daily work. You use Surefire or other in yours. To you thats every justification for the product you use. For me its overkill. I can buy all the best of the best and look Dam dangerous don't it. But I'd only be a paper worrior. As I said I respect you and your training. But for me that extra money would be better spent on being more proficient with my firearm. And get an upgrade in the light I have or find something close to what you use but without all the bells and whistles.
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The money you save by buying a Mag-Light instead of a Surefire, etc., could be spent on a pair of low-light goggles and a bunch of ammo. The goggles make it look like night-time and allow you to shoot in simulated darrkness. If you can't identify and hit a target in your own home with only a night light in the room, and no sights, maybe you shouldn't have a gun for self-defense. I'm sure that sounds stupid to some people but hope I'm not completely alone in my opinion. Since my full-size Mag-Light has brand new batteries in it I'm not worried much about seeing and POINTING my gun. If I were going to count on one of my Mini Mag-Lights instead I would have to install a push-button tail-cap, but the full-size models already have a push-button that's easy to locate and operate. It's also capable of "momentary on" flashing to blind someone when they don't expect it. The batteries are dirt cheap and long-lasting compared to CR123s or whatever those lithium cells are called. And any shot I take will be under 4 yards distance and nobody lives with me but my dog. My mom is the only other person with keys to my house. It won't take long to differentiate freind from foe even if I have to do it by "Braille".
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Wisconsin,
I understand your situation. I did some checking around for you and I found this,
http://www.skdtac.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=461 (http://www.skdtac.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=461)
It is a reasonably priced Surefire that has all the features a good fighting light should have at a reasonable price. Keep this one close by your pistol and keep using your mini-mag for work.
Jumbofrank,
Seems like you have a pretty good grasp of your situation, but I would still recommend getting the Surefire or something similar. Even the 5-cell mag lights are not as powerful as the Surefires.
The idea behind using the most powerful light you can is to use the light to not only identify a threat, but to physically incapacitate him by blinding him. Some of the stronger lights are so bright that people involuntarily turn their head away from the light because it physically hurts the eyes to continue looking at the light, even with their eyes closed.
I agree with you that a 5 cell mag light is pretty bright, but it has been my experience that a person can fight through the mag light illumination. It's even easier if they know it's coming. By that I mean, you hear a noise and use the flashlight to check it out but the bad guy has moved positions or the noise wasn't what you thought it was. Bad guy now knows you've got a flashlight and will be expecting to see it go on. He might not be as surprised or as blinded as you may think. I've never known anyone to successfully fight through a Surefire's illumination.
Another factor working against the Mag-lights is the adjustable bezel that allows you to rotate the focus between spot and flood light. They have huge dead spots in their illumination pattern. Try this, take your Mag light and focus the beam on the wall across your room. Now use that setting to illuminate another wall farther away or use it down a hall way. You should see a black, dead spot in the center of the pattern. This is a bad situation. If you don't have your light focused for the right distance, you could end up shining a less than optimal beam at a threat, making it even easier to fight through your light, or even more difficult to determine whether or not he's even a threat.
Just some food for thought. Everyone knows the first rule of a gunfight, have a gun. I would submit the second rule of a gunfight is to have a fighting light with you. I've been in many, many scenario's, both in training and real life where the instant my bright light hit their eyes, the fight was over. They gave up on the spot. After all, how can you fight what you can't see?
USSA-1
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If cost of the Surefires are a factor look at the G2. They can be found for about $35. The G2LED is around $65. The batteries come in a pack of 12 for $30, as opposed to $12 for two Eveready at WalMart, and they should last a while. Check Midway or Brownells. LAPolicegear.com has them for the same price with 6 free batteries.
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No, boats are great big holes you pour many into to keep them afloat, but come on down anyway, I do love to fish.
another great boat saying...
Every one wants a 100 mph boat, until you own one.
You want to talk about money out put... Never again will I own another 100 mph boat.
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The best in flash lights from Watchmaker http://www.packing4life.com/showthread.php?t=3314
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I agree with USSA-1 that there is a difference between the two. I also see a need for both a regular flashlight and a more expensive home defense/fighting light when you need a high quality light to use in conjunction with your pistol, etc. I also favor Surefire lights. Streamlights are good too. I always keep a Surefire G2 or 6P laying right beside my home defense pistol.
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Thank you 2HOW, a very good side by side comparison. I also own the streamlight, stinger xt and the ultra stinger that stay in chargers afixed to the headboard of my bed, always charging and always ready.
A question to USSA-1, and I had not really thought about this until, the surefire led's came out, a friend of mine got a surefire weapon light that fits on the picatinny rail and it is an led, in the home with a really bright light, you get what I call bounceback, or anyone in photography might say reflection, the reflection from the walls illuminates Me as well as others, Me and mine being my 1st concern, The Led version gave a nice white light that did not blind me, but illuminated the area very well, with surefires focused beam, but the 120 lumen + lamps illuminate me and also in some circumstances, take away my vision.
My L1 digital, with a 10 lumen setting is great for reading a map in the car, where anything brighter, not only lights me up for outsiders, but blinds me when reflected off the paper.
Although I own probably a thousand bucks worth of illumination, and think, they are mostly overpriced, I bought them anyway, as the good ones do the job, and what is job worth???
This is a great thread, keep the input coming in.
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Great conversation!
I often kick around the cost vs. real benefit issue. A really bright light that is impact resistant is really important. How much is too much for price and how little light is too little?
I'm not sure I want to rely on the brightness of my light to be the stopping factor for someone straight out of county. If I'm in my home, many parking lots, buildings etc, there is some ambient light that can be enhanced by a flashlight. If I'm in my home, I can pretty quickly figure out, even in low light, if there is someone there that is not supposed to be there. Do I need to cover them with a flood light to figure out if they are a threat? Nope, the mere presence is enough. Even a small maglite can serve that purpose.
Yes, there are people who need those high-end lights to do life saving work. And I hope they have one when they come to save me! The low end surefires are a good cross between cost and function and the maglites still hold up pretty well.
Practice with what you have in scenarios that you might face and see how your light holds up.
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I too have been "jonesing" for a new flashlight. The Surefire 6P LED or G2 LED is on my short list. However...I just ran across the Coleman MAX series at Wally-world. They have a couple different models for under $30 that claim 115 lumens output and run on 2 AA or 3 AAA batteries. I think I might pick one up this weekend. Has anyone else tried one?
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=10196613 (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=10196613)
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I thought my 120 lumen tactical weapons light was supposed to be several times brighter than my 2-cell Mag-Light but it's just a little brighter. I shined it right into my eyes in a semi-dark room and saw a few spots but wasn't blinded by it. It takes a lot better one than that to stop a fight. I'm kind of disappointed. I need to see how it compares to my 6-cell Mag-Light. That's one of the deadliest hand to hand weapons I have. For a fighting light I need to get something MUCH brighter than 120 lumens.
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I bought one of the G2's when they came out and bought a pack of spare batteries and the 120 lumen bulb at the same time. Looked at the receipt when I got home, thought HUM THERE'S GOT TO BE A CHEAPER WAY, went to the Surefire website and ordered the conversion kit for their rechargeable batteries. Lived happily ever after since then. I have used it all the time for jogging and hiking the batteries seem to last 8 months when being constantly used, YMMV. BTW I haven't had to worry about cars hitting me any more(YES I HAVE ALWAYS WORN A REFLECTIVE BELT OR VEST.) I did have one jerk swerve towards me(it was a teenager) thinking he was funny, needless to say I lit up his face and he straightened his course.
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These may not be what your looking for but they are impressive. I have the Bear Cub on order for work.
http://www.blackbearflashlights.com/
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I use a Surefire G2. You can get them for under $40.00. My local gun shop has batteries for $1.75 per pair. While light time is about
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Well since I started this thread I guess I have to revive it. With very good reason. USSA-1 told me to pony up and buy a fighting light and not mess around with lesser lights. Well give that man a cigar cause he was right on the mark. After messing around with half ass lights weather they claim high lumens or high intensity bulbs or conversions. I finally got tired of crap and ponyed up an bought one hell of a great light its called a Olight M20 Warrior from Olight USA which I bought from battery juction. I know thats probably a bold statement but here is the link for this tactical light. www.light-reviews.com/olight_m20/ It came with the orange peel reflector which is for flood. I bought the smooth reflector which is for spot for $9.95. With 230 lumens they claim with the smooth spot reflector it will shoot out too 273 yds. Well with my range finder the best I could get was a target out to was just over 200 yds. If you were standing there at that telephone pole, it would light up the pole and show me someone was standing in front of it. The only thing stopping me from identifing you would be the strength of my eye sight. The light went for $94.95 on sale. Available in black and I believe sand. I bought two 18650 3000mah battery from utrafire for $10.95 ea./ ultrafire battery charger for $16.95. with promo sale of 5% off it came too $146.51 at my door. I should of listened to USSA-1 from the get go.
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Although I own probably a thousand bucks worth of illumination, and think, they are mostly overpriced, I bought them anyway, as the good ones do the job, and what is job worth???
If you or USAA want to thin the herd a bit, PM me.
FQ13
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Go to Wally World and check out the Coleman Max. It has a tail switch and puts out 115 lumens on 3 AAA batteries for 8 hours. Very bright, compact and comes with a lanyard so you can release and recover to change mags. Costs about 30 bucks, uses cheap batteries, is plenty bright and has a longer run time than a lot of big bucks tac lights.
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Has anyone else seen the Husky "tactical" lights at Home Depot? I picked one up in a pinch a few weeks back and it blows my G2's out of the water. It uses 3 AAA batteries instead of the 123 lithiums and it is an LED to boot. All aluminum with a small clip to hang in the pocket and a tailcap switch. It is a little bigger around than the G2 but still fairly comfortable in the hand. All for a hair over $20.00. Absolutely no compliants here.