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Member Section => Tactical Rifle & Carbine => Topic started by: MAUSERMAN on November 15, 2011, 01:39:37 AM
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I'm looking to buy a pair of Rossi lever guns in .357 and .44mag. I need opinions and help from those that own them. These carbines are going see lots of range time.
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Is there a reason you are set on the Rossi line? Cost perhaps? Just asking. .357 and .44 Mag. lever guns are also made by Marlin, and they have a good reputation for longevity and good function-ability.
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I have 2, Deepwater has one, and Crusader has one. They all shoot very well.
One thing we have changed on all of them is the follower in the mag. It comes with a plastic one. Change it for stainless.
If yer gonna run them in comp http://www.stevesgunz.com/ shortens the stroke and slicks them up. He also has the followers if you don't have access to a lathe.
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Is there a reason for .357 and .44 instead of .45 Colt ?
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Is there a reason for .357 and .44 instead of .45 Colt ?
Even with the cost of .357
.36cents a round and up
http://www.ammoengine.com/find/ammo/.357_Magnum
.44 Mag.
.54 cents and up....
http://www.ammoengine.com/find/ammo/.44_Magnum
45 Colt gots them beat.. :'(
.61 cents a round and up....
http://www.ammoengine.com/find/ammo/.45_Colt
I have been getting .45 Colt for years stocking up, and still cry. I love to shoot it....but I watch the dollars go down range.. :'(
Question:
Can one shoot .38's from a .357 carbine lever action? Might help with the cost....(slightly)...
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To the best of my knowledge, you can shoot .38 spl from a .357 carbine.
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And you can shoot .44 special from a .44 mag (not that that saves money). Still the .44 mag is a vastly superior hunting cartridge to the .45.
FQ13
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Winchester is making the 92 again and it looks good but costs twice as much as the Rossi 92. Ouch. A pair of Rossis makes more sense.
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Is there a reason you are set on the Rossi line? Cost perhaps? Just asking. .357 and .44 Mag. lever guns are also made by Marlin, and they have a good reputation for longevity and good function-ability.
Is there a reason for .357 and .44 instead of .45 Colt ?
I bet I can answer both questions after some thought.
The Rossi is a SASS legal Winchester clone, the Marlin is, well, a Marlin.
He may have .357 and .44, but not a .45
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The '92 is being made in Japan these days.
If I had my druthers, I'd take the Italian Brazilian made Rossi and a boatload of ammo for the price of the Winny!
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Corrected....
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Since Marlin was bought out the quality has gone into the dumper. They stopped producing them a couple months ago to fix the QC problems.If you can find a JM marked rifle then buy it,otherwise stay away. I heard the other day that they are starting to make them again, But have no idea how the QC is on them.The Rossi 92's are a great gun once they are slicked up,I used one in CAS for about 6 years before switching to a 73 and 66 Winchester.
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Rossi model 92 in .357 Mag. sweet gun. as Haz says, we changed the follower to stainless to prevent issues with breaking plastic. used it last Spring to kill a BIG pig. used a lot of oil to slick her up enough for hunting, but for competition I would follow Haz'z advise and contact stevesguns.
http://www.stevesgunz.com/
enjoy..
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I have heard about the issues with Marlin QC as of late, but to be honest its cost. Another reason for the caliber choice is I also carry a wheel gun in the same caliber. Be it my GP100,SP101, or my Superedhawk I want to carry only one caliber. Now the follower issue is the first time ive heard of this. Do both .357 and .44mag have this problem?
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I have heard about the issues with Marlin QC as of late, but to be honest its cost. Another reason for the caliber choice is I also carry a wheel gun in the same caliber. Be it my GP100,SP101, or my Superedhawk I want to carry only one caliber. Know the follower issue is the first time ive heard of this. Do both .357 and .44mag have this problem?
as long as they have a plastic follower they MAY become an issue. but it is plastic and it WILL break sometime, hope it's not when you are out on a hunt or in a competition. and god forbid you need it during a home invasion. it's the only piece of crap plastic on the gun, so why not fix it before it breaks?
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I have heard about the issues with Marlin QC as of late, but to be honest its cost. Another reason for the caliber choice is I also carry a wheel gun in the same caliber. Be it my GP100,SP101, or my Superedhawk I want to carry only one caliber. Now the follower issue is the first time ive heard of this. Do both .357 and .44mag have this problem?
All Rossie's have the plastic follower. It is NOT a big deal to replace and Steve sells them for about $25.00 (shipped), so not a big expense either.
I have NOT heard of the plastic ones breaking BUT I don't want to take the chance. It is the only 'weak' thing on the gun so why not replace it and never have to worry again.
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All Rossie's have the plastic follower. It is NOT a big deal to replace and Steve sells them for about $25.00 (shipped), so not a big expense either.
I have NOT heard of the plastic ones breaking BUT I don't want to take the chance. It is the only 'weak' thing on the gun so why not replace it and never have to worry again.
Are they weak, or just plastic? I mean there's plastic as in Glock or M-16, and then there's plastic as in made in China POS. Also, it could be that plastic might be self lubricating, like delrin. Just curious.
FQ13
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I dunno. They are a yellow plastic.
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I dunno. They are a yellow plastic.
I was just curious if you ditched them because they seemed flimsy or if it was just precautionary.
FQ13
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I was just curious if you ditched them because they seemed flimsy or if it was just precautionary.
FQ13
the one I replaced was very thin and a bit flexible. yes it probably is 'self lubricating', but it will come in contact with oil and oil does accelerate the break down of other petroleum products.... plastic. why risk it?
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It just asked my local gunsmith about this and you guys are right. He's had a few rossi 92's come in with that very same problem and he just replaced the follwer. So It looks this Xmas is going to be a lever gun Xmas. Now I'm thinking about the 45colt. See what happens when I listen to you people. JK ;D
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If ya want a .45 Colt then get the .454 Casual. You can shoot either.
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It just asked my local gunsmith about this and you guys are right. He's had a few rossi 92's come in with that very same problem and he just replaced the follwer. So It looks this Xmas is going to be a lever gun Xmas. Now I'm thinking about the 45colt. See what happens when I listen to you people. JK ;D
Easy fix, get one in each caliber,No problems then. ;D ;D
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Easy fix, get one in each caliber,No problems then. ;D ;D
Get one in the .454 casull and you have all bases covered. Cowboy action, sane range/SD round, and hunting/bear-away. And hey, its only $600, not too bad for a nice carbine.
FQ13 who is always happy to be the voice of Satan. ;D
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FQ,I was thinking more of getting one in .38/.357mag,44-40,.44 special/.44mag,.45 Colt/.454... ;D ;D
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FQ,I was thinking more of getting one in .38/.357mag,44-40,.44 special/.44mag,.45 Colt/.454... ;D ;D
Can I come visit? I'll bring beer! ;)
FQ13
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Get one in the .454 casull and you have all bases covered. Cowboy action, sane range/SD round, and hunting/bear-away. And hey, its only $600, not too bad for a nice carbine.
FQ13 who is always happy to be the voice of Satan. ;D
Yer payin' way too much. Bud's has them for around $400.00.
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Yer payin' way too much. Bud's has them for around $400.00.
Haz, do these guns, as replicas of antiques, qualify for your C&R?
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Nope. (DAMMIT!) ;D
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As of right now it looks like all 3 carbine are on my list. My local gun shop has to order them but thats no problem. I have to find a way to tell my girlfriend 3 more guns followd me home. What to do? Got it I'll blame you guys. HaHa you guys in deepsh!t.
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What to do? Got it I'll blame you guys. HaHa you guys in deepsh!t.
I'm married and used to it.
I will say that the only thing that caused her jaw to hit the floor was the Swarovski EL binos.
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As of right now it looks like all 3 carbine are on my list. My local gun shop has to order them but thats no problem. I have to find a way to tell my girlfriend 3 more guns followd me home. What to do? Got it I'll blame you guys. HaHa you guys in deepsh!t.
Ya know they make 'em in 30-30, 45-70 and 410 as well! ;D
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Haz are you trying to get me killed.
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Haz are you trying to get me killed.
Who? Moi? ???
Perish the thought! ::)
;D
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Mauserman, If you get the .45 remember, you will need a revolver ( or 2 ) to go with it. ;D
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Mauserman, If you get the .45 remember, you will need a revolver ( or 2 ) to go with it. ;D
And a Side by Side Shotgun... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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RELAX Mauserman,.....
We got the Wife angle covered..... sage advice.... ;D
We are here but to humbly serve.... ::)
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This guy needs to stop right now and get out of the gun business. He has got a brilliant career in politics ahead of him! ;D Seriously, that is up there with Chris Rock's "How not to get your ass kicked by the po-lice". ROFL.
FQ13
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My problem is she only thinks I'm going to buy one carbine. Second I added three handguns this year to my collection and to make things worse her cousin works at my local gun shop. So that gun case idea that guy in the vid metioned is getting tested.
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Look on the bright side Mauserman, single guys may not get laid as often and have to eat their own cooking, but that leaves more money for hassle free gun buying ;D
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I rather get laid on the regular, but as of today I just put money down on both .357 and .44mag today. I also told her dumb ass cousin that if he mentions anything to her I would use him as a sparring dummy.
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I rather get laid on the regular, but as of today I just put money down on both .357 and .44mag today.
Don't worry I'm sure the couch is comfortable. ;D
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OK, so Ogre has decided it is OK to lie, cheat, deceive or otherwise hoodwink your wife in order to buy a gun?
Ogre at one point said if you hear about a 1-ticket raffle - STFU. Instead, we should all MTFU. If we contribute to the household finances, and if finances allow gun purchases without the kids going without winter clothes or only eating once a day, then do it the right way - put gun purchases in the budget and be open about it.
I have not heard a guaranteed way to destroy a marriage or relationship than the crap Ogre spewed in a long, long time.
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OK, so Ogre has decided it is OK to lie, cheat, deceive or otherwise hoodwink your wife in order to buy a gun?
Ogre at one point said if you hear about a 1-ticket raffle - STFU. Instead, we should all MTFU. If we contribute to the household finances, and if finances allow gun purchases without the kids going without winter clothes or only eating once a day, then do it the right way - put gun purchases in the budget and be open about it.
I have not heard a guaranteed way to destroy a marriage or relationship than the crap Ogre spewed in a long, long time.
+1,000,000
Probably the number one thing you can do to FU your relationship is to start deceiving the partner. It's why I've been married as long as I have. There will be only one for me and she knows it all!
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Sorry to disturb the thread drift, but does anyone know of any dealer that has the Rossi 357 in stock now?
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Sorry to disturb the thread drift, but does anyone know of any dealer that has the Rossi 357 in stock now?
This guy has one....
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=262825494
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This guy has one....
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=262825494
Dang! That's a good looking gun. I didn't realize the wood on them was so nice. They seem like even more of a deal now.
FQ13
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OK, so Ogre has decided it is OK to lie, cheat, deceive or otherwise hoodwink your wife in order to buy a gun?
Ogre at one point said if you hear about a 1-ticket raffle - STFU. Instead, we should all MTFU. If we contribute to the household finances, and if finances allow gun purchases without the kids going without winter clothes or only eating once a day, then do it the right way - put gun purchases in the budget and be open about it.
I have not heard a guaranteed way to destroy a marriage or relationship than the crap Ogre spewed in a long, long time.
Michelle Obama DID say child obesity was a major health problem.
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Michelle Obama DID say child obesity was a major health problem.
And really, what self respecting ten year old wouldn't bde willing to run around in his skivvies if he could have his very own .357 carbine? Beats the hell out of a Red Ryder BB gun any day of the week! ;D
FQ13
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It's gonna be a really tight squeeze, but Santa is dropping off a Rossi 92, 20" blued in .357. Can't wait!
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It's gonna be a really tight squeeze, but Santa is dropping off a Rossi 92, 20" blued in .357. Can't wait!
Well! Ain't that a wonderful thing!!!!
Congrats!
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As of today I can pick up my .44mag but the .357 never made it in. I guess there is some kind of back order on the .357 carbines. So instead i got a really nice Eddystone 1917. I know its not a Mauser but it work on the same principles and 30-06 is one hell of a cartridge.
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Many WWI veterans considered it a better rifle than the Springfield because it had better sights.