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Title: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: MAUSERMAN on November 15, 2011, 01:39:37 am
I'm looking to buy a pair of Rossi lever guns in .357 and .44mag. I need opinions and help from those that own them. These carbines are going see lots of range time.
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: billt on November 15, 2011, 06:01:38 am
Is there a reason you are set on the Rossi line? Cost perhaps? Just asking. .357 and .44 Mag. lever guns are also made by Marlin, and they have a good reputation for longevity and good function-ability.
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: Hazcat on November 15, 2011, 08:12:26 am
I have 2, Deepwater has one, and Crusader has one.  They all shoot very well.  

One thing we have changed on all of them is the follower in the mag.  It comes with a plastic one.  Change it for stainless.

If yer gonna run them in comp http://www.stevesgunz.com/ shortens the stroke and slicks them up.  He also has the followers if you don't have access to a lathe.
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 15, 2011, 09:06:30 am
Is there a reason for  .357 and .44 instead of .45 Colt ?
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: twyacht on November 15, 2011, 03:27:09 pm
Is there a reason for  .357 and .44 instead of .45 Colt ?

Even with the cost of .357

.36cents a round and up
http://www.ammoengine.com/find/ammo/.357_Magnum

.44 Mag.
.54 cents and up....
http://www.ammoengine.com/find/ammo/.44_Magnum

45 Colt gots them beat.. :'(
.61 cents a round and up....
http://www.ammoengine.com/find/ammo/.45_Colt

I have been getting .45 Colt for years stocking up, and still cry. I love to shoot it....but I watch the dollars go down range.. :'(

Question:

Can one shoot .38's from a .357 carbine lever action? Might help with the cost....(slightly)...

Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: Timothy on November 15, 2011, 03:31:08 pm
To the best of my knowledge, you can shoot .38 spl from a .357 carbine.
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: fightingquaker13 on November 15, 2011, 03:39:36 pm
And you can shoot .44 special from a .44 mag (not that that saves money). Still the .44 mag is a vastly superior hunting cartridge to the .45.
FQ13
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: jumbofrank on November 15, 2011, 03:48:25 pm
Winchester is making the 92 again and it looks good but costs twice as much as the Rossi 92. Ouch. A pair of Rossis makes more sense.
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 15, 2011, 03:54:29 pm
Is there a reason you are set on the Rossi line? Cost perhaps? Just asking. .357 and .44 Mag. lever guns are also made by Marlin, and they have a good reputation for longevity and good function-ability.

Is there a reason for  .357 and .44 instead of .45 Colt ?

I bet I can answer both questions after some thought.
The Rossi is a SASS legal Winchester clone, the Marlin is, well, a Marlin.
He may have .357 and .44, but not a .45
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: Timothy on November 15, 2011, 03:55:07 pm
The '92 is being made in Japan these days.

If I had my druthers, I'd take the Italian Brazilian made Rossi and a boatload of ammo for the price of the Winny!

.02

Corrected....
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: Majer on November 15, 2011, 04:05:08 pm
Since Marlin was bought out the quality has gone into the dumper. They stopped producing them a couple months ago to fix the QC problems.If you can find a JM marked rifle then buy it,otherwise stay away. I heard the other day that they are starting to make them again, But have no idea how the QC is on them.The Rossi 92's are a great gun once they are slicked up,I used one in CAS for about 6 years before switching to a 73 and 66 Winchester.
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: deepwater on November 15, 2011, 04:33:53 pm
Rossi model 92 in .357 Mag. sweet gun. as Haz says, we changed the follower to stainless to prevent issues with breaking plastic. used it last Spring to kill a BIG pig. used a lot of oil to slick her up enough for hunting, but for competition I would follow Haz'z advise and contact stevesguns.
http://www.stevesgunz.com/


enjoy..
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: MAUSERMAN on November 16, 2011, 04:21:40 pm
I have heard about the issues with Marlin QC as of late, but to be honest its cost. Another reason for the caliber choice is I  also carry a wheel gun in the same caliber. Be it my GP100,SP101, or my Superedhawk I want to carry only one caliber. Now the follower issue is the first time ive heard of this. Do both .357 and .44mag have this problem?
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: deepwater on November 16, 2011, 04:46:22 pm
I have heard about the issues with Marlin QC as of late, but to be honest its cost. Another reason for the caliber choice is I  also carry a wheel gun in the same caliber. Be it my GP100,SP101, or my Superedhawk I want to carry only one caliber. Know the follower issue is the first time ive heard of this. Do both .357 and .44mag have this problem?
as long as they have a plastic follower they MAY become an issue. but it is plastic and it WILL break sometime, hope it's not when you are out on a hunt or in a competition. and god forbid you need it during a home invasion. it's the only piece of crap plastic on the gun, so why not fix it before it breaks?
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: Hazcat on November 17, 2011, 07:37:12 am
I have heard about the issues with Marlin QC as of late, but to be honest its cost. Another reason for the caliber choice is I  also carry a wheel gun in the same caliber. Be it my GP100,SP101, or my Superedhawk I want to carry only one caliber. Now the follower issue is the first time ive heard of this. Do both .357 and .44mag have this problem?

All Rossie's have the plastic follower.  It is NOT a big deal to replace and Steve sells them for about $25.00 (shipped), so not a big expense either.

I have NOT heard of the plastic ones breaking BUT I don't want to take the chance.  It is the only 'weak' thing on the gun so why not replace it and never have to worry again.
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: fightingquaker13 on November 17, 2011, 07:45:54 am
All Rossie's have the plastic follower.  It is NOT a big deal to replace and Steve sells them for about $25.00 (shipped), so not a big expense either.

I have NOT heard of the plastic ones breaking BUT I don't want to take the chance.  It is the only 'weak' thing on the gun so why not replace it and never have to worry again.
Are they weak, or just plastic? I mean there's plastic as in Glock or M-16, and then there's plastic as in made in China POS. Also, it could be that plastic might be self lubricating, like delrin. Just curious.
FQ13
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: Hazcat on November 17, 2011, 08:41:39 am
I dunno.  They are a yellow plastic.
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: fightingquaker13 on November 17, 2011, 08:45:14 am
I dunno.  They are a yellow plastic.
I was just curious if you ditched them because they seemed flimsy or if it was just precautionary.
FQ13
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: deepwater on November 17, 2011, 09:05:29 am
I was just curious if you ditched them because they seemed flimsy or if it was just precautionary.
FQ13
the one I replaced was very thin and a bit flexible. yes it probably is 'self lubricating', but it will come in contact with oil and oil does accelerate the break down of other petroleum products.... plastic. why risk it?
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: MAUSERMAN on November 18, 2011, 01:17:26 am
It just asked my local gunsmith about this and you guys are right. He's had a few rossi 92's come in with that very same problem and he just replaced the follwer. So It looks this Xmas is going to be a lever gun Xmas. Now I'm thinking about the 45colt. See what happens when I listen to you people. JK ;D
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: Hazcat on November 18, 2011, 01:31:32 am
If ya want a .45 Colt then get the .454 Casual.  You can shoot either.
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: Majer on November 18, 2011, 09:13:31 am
It just asked my local gunsmith about this and you guys are right. He's had a few rossi 92's come in with that very same problem and he just replaced the follwer. So It looks this Xmas is going to be a lever gun Xmas. Now I'm thinking about the 45colt. See what happens when I listen to you people. JK ;D

Easy fix, get one in each caliber,No problems then. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: fightingquaker13 on November 18, 2011, 09:21:46 am
Easy fix, get one in each caliber,No problems then. ;D ;D
Get one in the .454 casull and you have all bases covered. Cowboy action, sane range/SD round, and hunting/bear-away. And hey, its only $600, not too bad for a nice carbine.
FQ13 who is always happy to be the voice of Satan. ;D
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: Majer on November 18, 2011, 09:25:04 am
FQ,I was thinking more of getting one in .38/.357mag,44-40,.44 special/.44mag,.45 Colt/.454... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: fightingquaker13 on November 18, 2011, 09:29:11 am
FQ,I was thinking more of getting one in .38/.357mag,44-40,.44 special/.44mag,.45 Colt/.454... ;D ;D
Can I come visit? I'll bring beer! ;)
FQ13
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: Hazcat on November 18, 2011, 10:16:38 am
Get one in the .454 casull and you have all bases covered. Cowboy action, sane range/SD round, and hunting/bear-away. And hey, its only $600, not too bad for a nice carbine.
FQ13 who is always happy to be the voice of Satan. ;D

Yer payin' way too much.  Bud's has them for around $400.00.
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: Timothy on November 18, 2011, 10:26:56 am
Yer payin' way too much.  Bud's has them for around $400.00.

Haz, do these guns, as replicas of antiques, qualify for your C&R?
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: Hazcat on November 18, 2011, 10:29:56 am
Nope.  (DAMMIT!) ;D
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: MAUSERMAN on November 19, 2011, 12:33:04 am
As of right now it looks like all 3 carbine are on my list. My local gun shop has to order them but thats no problem. I have to find a way to tell my girlfriend 3 more guns followd me home. What to do? Got it I'll blame you guys. HaHa you guys in deepsh!t.
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: kmitch200 on November 19, 2011, 01:43:40 am
What to do? Got it I'll blame you guys. HaHa you guys in deepsh!t.

I'm married and used to it.
I will say that the only thing that caused her jaw to hit the floor was the Swarovski EL binos.
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: Hazcat on November 19, 2011, 06:35:24 am
As of right now it looks like all 3 carbine are on my list. My local gun shop has to order them but thats no problem. I have to find a way to tell my girlfriend 3 more guns followd me home. What to do? Got it I'll blame you guys. HaHa you guys in deepsh!t.

Ya know they make 'em in 30-30, 45-70 and 410 as well!  ;D
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: MAUSERMAN on November 19, 2011, 10:49:02 pm
Haz are you trying to get me killed.
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: Hazcat on November 20, 2011, 06:48:03 am
Haz are you trying to get me killed.

Who?  Moi?   ???

Perish the thought!   ::)


;D
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 20, 2011, 09:56:30 am
Mauserman, If you get the .45 remember, you will need a revolver ( or 2 ) to go with it.  ;D
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: Majer on November 20, 2011, 12:05:15 pm
Mauserman, If you get the .45 remember, you will need a revolver ( or 2 ) to go with it.  ;D

And a Side by Side Shotgun... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: twyacht on November 20, 2011, 02:14:41 pm
RELAX Mauserman,.....

We got the Wife angle covered..... sage advice.... ;D



We are here but to humbly serve.... ::)
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: fightingquaker13 on November 20, 2011, 02:29:31 pm
This guy needs to stop right now and get out of the gun business. He has got a brilliant career in politics ahead of him! ;D Seriously, that is up there with Chris Rock's "How not to get your ass kicked by the po-lice". ROFL.
FQ13
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: MAUSERMAN on November 20, 2011, 09:26:12 pm
My problem is she only thinks I'm going to buy one carbine. Second I added three handguns this year to my collection and to make things worse her cousin works at my local gun shop. So that gun case idea that guy in the vid metioned is getting tested.
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 20, 2011, 10:03:02 pm
Look on the bright side Mauserman, single guys may not get laid as often and have to eat their own cooking, but that leaves more money for hassle free gun buying  ;D
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: MAUSERMAN on November 29, 2011, 12:57:07 am
I rather get laid on the regular, but as of today I just put money down on both .357 and .44mag today. I also told her dumb ass cousin that if he mentions anything to her I would use him as a sparring dummy.
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 29, 2011, 12:59:16 am
I rather get laid on the regular, but as of today I just put money down on both .357 and .44mag today.

Don't worry I'm sure the couch is comfortable.    ;D
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: Pathfinder on November 29, 2011, 09:41:12 am
OK, so Ogre has decided it is OK to lie, cheat, deceive or otherwise hoodwink your wife in order to buy a gun?

Ogre at one point said if you hear about a 1-ticket raffle - STFU. Instead, we should all MTFU. If we contribute to the household finances, and if finances allow gun purchases without the kids going without winter clothes or only eating once a day, then do it the right way - put gun purchases in the budget and be open about it.

I have not heard a guaranteed way to destroy a marriage or relationship than the crap Ogre spewed in a long, long time.
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: Timothy on November 29, 2011, 09:50:15 am
OK, so Ogre has decided it is OK to lie, cheat, deceive or otherwise hoodwink your wife in order to buy a gun?

Ogre at one point said if you hear about a 1-ticket raffle - STFU. Instead, we should all MTFU. If we contribute to the household finances, and if finances allow gun purchases without the kids going without winter clothes or only eating once a day, then do it the right way - put gun purchases in the budget and be open about it.

I have not heard a guaranteed way to destroy a marriage or relationship than the crap Ogre spewed in a long, long time.

+1,000,000

Probably the number one thing you can do to FU your relationship is to start deceiving the partner.  It's why I've been married as long as I have.  There will be only one for me and she knows it all!
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: jaybet on November 29, 2011, 10:12:06 am
Sorry to disturb the thread drift, but does anyone know of any dealer that has the Rossi 357 in stock now?
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: kmitch200 on November 29, 2011, 10:41:59 am
Sorry to disturb the thread drift, but does anyone know of any dealer that has the Rossi 357 in stock now?

This guy has one....

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=262825494
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: fightingquaker13 on November 29, 2011, 10:58:35 am
This guy has one....

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=262825494
Dang! That's a good looking gun. I didn't realize the wood on them was so nice. They seem like even more of a deal now.
FQ13
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 29, 2011, 01:00:07 pm
OK, so Ogre has decided it is OK to lie, cheat, deceive or otherwise hoodwink your wife in order to buy a gun?

Ogre at one point said if you hear about a 1-ticket raffle - STFU. Instead, we should all MTFU. If we contribute to the household finances, and if finances allow gun purchases without the kids going without winter clothes or only eating once a day, then do it the right way - put gun purchases in the budget and be open about it.

I have not heard a guaranteed way to destroy a marriage or relationship than the crap Ogre spewed in a long, long time.


Michelle Obama DID say child obesity was a major health problem.
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: fightingquaker13 on November 29, 2011, 01:03:05 pm

Michelle Obama DID say child obesity was a major health problem.

And really, what self respecting ten year old wouldn't bde willing to run around in his skivvies if he could have his very own .357 carbine? Beats the hell out of a Red Ryder BB gun any day of the week! ;D
FQ13
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: jaybet on December 20, 2011, 07:36:30 am
It's gonna be a really tight squeeze, but Santa is dropping off a Rossi 92, 20" blued in .357. Can't wait!
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: Timothy on December 20, 2011, 07:42:07 am
It's gonna be a really tight squeeze, but Santa is dropping off a Rossi 92, 20" blued in .357. Can't wait!

Well!  Ain't that a wonderful thing!!!!

Congrats!
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: MAUSERMAN on December 20, 2011, 04:33:18 pm
As of today I can pick up my .44mag but the .357 never made it in. I guess there is some kind of back order on the .357 carbines. So instead i got a really nice Eddystone 1917. I know its not a Mauser but it work on the same principles and 30-06 is one hell of a cartridge.
Title: Re: Need help from rossi lever gun owners.
Post by: tombogan03884 on December 20, 2011, 06:53:12 pm
Many WWI veterans considered it a better rifle than the Springfield because it had better sights.